#WeCops - Wednesday 10th February 2021 9pm (GMT Standard Time)
Public Health approaches in policing and the learning so far
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Public Health approaches in policing and the learning so far
Event - Wednesday 10th February 2021 (9pm-10pm)
This @wecops chat is focused on public health approaches in policing and will be hosted by Lancashire Constabulary Chief Constable Andy Rhodes, Detective Chief Superintendent Sue Clarke, Superintendent Justin Srivastava and the Lancashire Violence Reduction Network.
Twitter handles of all those hosting will be:
Chief Constable Andy Rhodes - @CCARhodes
Detective Chief Superintendent Sue Clarke - @DCSSueClarke
Superintendent Justin Srivastava - @SuptSrivastava
Lancashire Violence Reduction Network - @LancsVRN
This @wecops chat will discuss ways in which the police service could develop its approach.
Public health approaches in policing support the Policing Vision 2025, which talks about proactive preventative activity, working with partners to problem-solve, vulnerability, cohesive communities, improving data sharing, evidence-based practice and wholesystem approaches.
The idea of applying public health approaches to areas such as road safety, drugs and violence is not new; but the term is being used to mean different things and no nationally or internationally agreed definitions of ‘public health approaches in policing’ currently exist.
What are public health approaches?
Population focus - Public health approaches start with the needs of the public or population groups rather than with individual people. This is different to healthcare where the focus is on the individual patient, or reactive policing whereofficers respond to calls about individual victims or perpetrators.
Public health approaches involve interventions delivered at population level and targeting resources effectively through increased understanding of the population.
The causes of the causes - Taking public health approaches means looking behind an issue or problem or illness to understand what is driving it. Often called ‘social determinants’ or ‘structural factors’, these are the circumstances such as housing, education, indebtedness and income that underpin people’s lives.
Prevention - Public health approaches start from the principle that prevention is better than cure.
For further reading please read the discussion paper https://www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/Support/uniformed-policing-faculty/Documents/Public%20Health%20Approaches.pdf
Or visit www.lancsvrn.co.uk
The National Four Nations Webinar on Public Health Approaches in Policing and Serious Violence Across the UK takes place between 8th-12th February 2021. www.virtual4nations.uk – Register now
Meet your hosts
Chief Constable Andy Rhodes - @CCARhodes
Chief Constable Andy Rhodes joined Lancashire Police in 1991, spending much of his early career in local policing, firearms public order and search. He has experienced a real variety of leadership roles ranging from operations to corporate change to BCU Command. In 2014 he became Deputy Chief Constable and in June 2017 took up his current role as Chief Constable.
Andy is NPCC lead for Wellbeing and Staff Engagement, Organisational Development as well as the College of Policing professional community chair for OD and International. He regularly carries out peer reviews as part of these roles and has led on the development of a transformational change framework for the College.
Andy has worked with experts in the field of wellbeing to establish the first police-specific wellbeing framework funded by Public Health England and has jointly designed an early intervention model which is soon to be published as a research paper.
Detective Chief Superintendent Sue Clarke - @DCSSueClarke
DCS Sue Clarke has served with the Lancashire Constabulary for 30 years. Prior to her current role as Director of the VRN, she held key strategic roles as Head of Crime for the force and Head of Public Protection as a Detective Superintendent.
Sue’s current role as Head of the Lancashire Violence Reduction Network focusses on bringing the concept of a public health approach to policing alive in Lancashire. She is a strong advocate of taking a trauma informed approach to facilitate this.
Superintendent Justin Srivastava - @SuptSrivastava
Superintendent Justin Srivastava has 26 years police service. He currently works on the Lancashire Violence Reduction Unit and is the lead for the UK Home Office on Trauma Informed practice within policing.
Since 2017, Justin has led for the UK National Police Chiefs Council (NPCC) on the Police and Health Consensus (recognised and utilised across the UK landscape). This work involves the examination of how policing and health/social care partners can improve how they work together to address vulnerability demand and intervening at the earliest opportunity. In support of this Justin has published national documents for Public Health England and the College of Policing on public health approaches to policing, early intervention and police and health collaboration.
In 2018, Justin was appointed the strategic lead for the National Police Wellbeing Service and was responsible for developing strategy and operational practice for the wellbeing of serving and retired police officers in England and Wales.
Justin has previously also served with Surrey and Humberside Police in public protection roles.
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Public Health approaches in policing and the learning so far
Event - Wednesday 10th February 2021 (9pm-10pm)
This @WeCops chat focused on public health approaches in policing and was hosted by Lancashire Constabulary Chief Constable Andy Rhodes, Detective Chief Superintendent Sue Clarke, Superintendent Justin Srivastava and the Lancashire Violence Reduction Network.
Written by Superintendent Justin Srivastava, Lancashire Constabulary
I remember back in 2012, when I was working in Blackburn being told by public health colleagues that the future of policing needs better policing activity around Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) and public health approaches. How right they were, little did I know that 9 years later the Lancashire Violence Reduction Network and NPCC would be hosting a four-nations five-day webinar on the same approaches with an amazing @WeCops debate on the Wednesday night. Only a few months before we had been asked by the Home Office to be the lead Violence Reduction Unit on trauma informed and public health approaches and combining our expertise with the webinar seemed to make a lot of sense.
The energy, enthusiasm and dedication to public health approaches has been astounding. I have been overwhelmed by the contributions from England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland and what we originally planned as a two day webinar quickly became a five day event with 65 speakers, 1700 participants and excellent content from front line leaders and practitioners including national and international policy makers or influencers.
On Wednesday the 10th February 2021, CC Andy Rhodes and I hosted the “WeCops” debate on Public Health approaches in policing. We were really keen to get as many different views and thoughts from across the four nations and beyond. We weren’t disappointed - some of the questions that were posed are often echoed in other forums and meetings- What do you mean by a public health approach to policing? Is it relevant to law enforcement? Are we just doing the job of other agencies? In 2018, the National Police Chiefs Council, College of Policing and Public Health England tried to answer that particular “exam question” when they published “What is a Public Health approach in policing?”
In that document the public health approach is broken down into five key areas Data, Prevention, Partnership, Population and dealing with the “Causes of the Causes”. In many ways this has a lot of synergy with the original Peelian principles of policing namely that the goal is preventing crime and thus earning public support not solely catching criminals. All of us in our careers have experienced the need to deal with vulnerable members of our community and for some at 2am in the morning the police are a telephone call of choice. This was supported by the College of Policing in 2015 when they highlighted that the majority of our police demand and deployment isn’t crime related - a picture that is probably recognisable to all colleagues from Cornwall to Newcastle. Thus, if we are having to deploy to non-crime matters maybe, adopting a public health approach isn’t a “nice to have” but more of an operational necessity?
So, this was hotly debated in the webinar and the “WeCops” debate and a number of consistent themes emerged:
- The opportunity for co-location or integrated services at a strategic and place-based level
- Learning from lived experience and ensuring that this is a key part of service delivery
- The importance of recruiting, retaining and progressing leaders that can operate in complex partnership environments.
- Mainstreaming and sustainable funding across the system for prevention, early intervention and public health approaches.
- A call for cross Government departmental working to address the “causes of the causes”
- The need for enhanced and improved data sharing across local and national systems that includes the ability to use data to predict vulnerability.
Some of the themes need to be discussed, debated and actioned at a local level and those that are national issues have been fed back into the NPCC lead DCC Julian Moss for consideration by Chief Officers and the Home Office and other Government departments.
We wanted the @WeCops event and the webinar to continue the debate, raise awareness and assist those leaders and practitioners working at a local level as well as informing our senior leaders. I think we achieved our aims but there is still a lot to do.
“If you always do what you’ve always done, you always get what you’ve always got”
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After the success of the webinar we are planning several monthly 90 mins events to showcase some of the excellent public health and trauma informed work that is taking place across UK policing. The next one will be a “Public health approach to gangs” to be hosted in April.
Details of the monthly webinars and the content is still available to view “on demand” - www.virtual4nations.uk
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#WeCops transcript
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@RevDoors
10 February 2021 21:00
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Young adults represent over 30% of all police cases. Young adults need a distinct approach, when they experience crisis, become victims of crime, or break the law. Policing can make a huge difference. Pledge your commitment to young adults #WeCops: https://revolving-doors.org.uk/file/2548/download?token=tk_eqnIB https://t.co/0CoowoB4Av |
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@WeCops
10 February 2021 21:00
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Q1 What do you know about Public Health approaches in policing? Please do remember to use the hashtag #WeCops so we can see all of your responses https://t.co/CKwm5uj8Jw |
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@TiggyWhiffing
10 February 2021 21:00
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RT @WeCops: Q1 What do you know about Public Health approaches in policing? Please do remember to use the hashtag #WeCops so we can see a… |
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@HaywireHarris
10 February 2021 21:00
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@WeCops Public health approach is my world. I'm Beds Police's Mental Health Crime Investigator. I'm based out of an office within an acute mental health in-patient hospital. Investigating offences in mental health clinical settings, where the suspect is mentally vulnerable. #wecops |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:01
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RT @WeCops: Q1 What do you know about Public Health approaches in policing? Please do remember to use the hashtag #WeCops so we can see a… |
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@HaywireHarris
10 February 2021 21:01
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@WeCops We've been hugely successful, in promoting rehabilitative & restorative outcomes. Rather than formal CJS outcomes. Violence on the wards has dropped by over 70% corroborated by Police crime data & NHS data. #wecops |
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@JJSharpers
10 February 2021 21:01
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@WeCops Personally? I think it’s something that everyone talks about as a solution, but it’s never put into practice #wecops |
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@HaywireHarris
10 February 2021 21:01
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@WeCops It really does work! #wecops |
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@ktbg1
10 February 2021 21:02
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RT @WeCops: Q1 What do you know about Public Health approaches in policing? Please do remember to use the hashtag #WeCops so we can see a… |
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@TheBigHon
10 February 2021 21:02
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@WeCops I'll be honest, not very much! It sounds more like a buzzword than an strategy at the moment (except with regards to drug policy)... #wecops |
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@WecopsCaroline
10 February 2021 21:03
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RT @WeCops: Q1 What do you know about Public Health approaches in policing? Please do remember to use the hashtag #WeCops so we can see a… |
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@dadwithahat1
10 February 2021 21:03
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@WeCops It’s about getting to the actual causes of problems rather than being reactive to the outcomes #wecops |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:03
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@WeCops Ops #wecops |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:04
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RT @WeCops: Q1 What do you know about Public Health approaches in policing? Please do remember to use the hashtag #WeCops so we can see a… |
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@GorillaoJustice
10 February 2021 21:04
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@lewis_mayling @WeCops Basically what the boss said #wecops https://t.co/5MJtjgVcrR |
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@FestAKINBUSOYE
10 February 2021 21:05
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@WeCops I know we have a fantastic team in #Bedfordshire that make up our non-police led @BedsVeru which brings partners together & takes public health approach to crime and policing. Very good support from @bedspolice too. Third yr. funding just announced. Sustainability is key #WeCops |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:05
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@WeCops #wecops - keen to see how we can bring PHA into IOM - partnerships already present so just needs a refocus. |
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@WecopsCaroline
10 February 2021 21:05
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@WeCops I was looking at the EAT team tonight which looks great but I worry with big groups does that dilute responsibility? Someone else will do that etc... #WeCops https://t.co/JhIfR6DuMB |
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@HindleLinda
10 February 2021 21:05
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Good evening #WeCops - Q1 -An opportunity to focus on the root causes of demand and inequality by working with partners and making decisions based on data, evidence and intelligence https://twitter.com/WeCops/status/1359608082393833472 |
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@ktbg1
10 February 2021 21:05
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@WeCops Looking at policing problems through lenses other that arrest & disruption. Thinking through prevention & cure. Understanding causes & consequences? #wecops |
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@DirectorSueLVRN
10 February 2021 21:05
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@WeCops @dadwithahat1 ??????#Wecops |
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@WeCops
10 February 2021 21:06
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RT @HindleLinda: Good evening #WeCops - Q1 -An opportunity to focus on the root causes of demand and inequality by working with partners an… |
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@Maryoshaughnes8
10 February 2021 21:06
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@WeCops #wecops, takes a more holistic approach to the problem for example @jqjasonkew Thames valley using treatment and support for drug users. @InsJimJones team providing support for veterans rather than criminalising |
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@JohnRobertMc
10 February 2021 21:06
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@WeCops Public health & policing are massively intertwined. Kids are dying in knife attacks, mental health is more and more in the policing agenda and that’s before we mention drug use. We need to work harder than ever with partners to keep people alive, safe and well #WeCops |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:06
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@TheBigHon @WeCops Think there are some people adopting the approach and others doing some excellent work but not necessarily recognising it as a public health approach when it actually contains some of the key elements #wecops |
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@mark74brown
10 February 2021 21:06
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@WeCops From what I’ve seen & then read since leaving policing its dealing with a crime/safeguarding type as a whole rather than dealing with individuals...dealing with the causes & looking to prevention to mitigate further threat/risk/harm #wecops |
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@IslandServant
10 February 2021 21:07
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@WeCops #wecops I know very little in some sense. The topic in the main is fairly new in a policing sense & has taken us by storm. We need to enhance our knowledge if we are to continue to deal or the most appropriate services enhance their capability |
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@TheBigHon
10 February 2021 21:07
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@SuptSrivastava @WeCops So what is it? #WeCops https://t.co/83nMvUtSUt |
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@GorillaoJustice
10 February 2021 21:07
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@lewis_mayling @WeCops Although applying the principles needs multiple organisational by ins and currently despite some excellent pockets of this it’s truly only the @vruscotland that can say this is working in practice. But that’s what a 14 years of the same govt does. Long term planning ??????? #wecops |
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@AndyRhodes_OK
10 February 2021 21:07
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@WeCops Health data has far more predictive value than most police data we mainly get involved after the event so for me PH&Police recognises we don't have all the answers to EI and prevention #wecops if we want to prevent harm |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:08
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@JohnRobertMc @WeCops and address the causes of the causes to prevent it happening in the first place #wecops |
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@DirectorSueLVRN
10 February 2021 21:08
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@SgtJJSharps @SuptSrivastava @WeCops Need to be open to the fact that this will not happen overnight. The events of last weekend show there is more to do . However I still think it's the most positive approach we've tried for many many years #wecops |
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@Graham_Goulden
10 February 2021 21:08
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@WeCops A game changer in Scotland around violence. It changed the conversation from simply who is responsible to why is it happening and what’s contributing to levels of violence. #wecops |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:08
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@WeCops It still is an approach which deals with people who are a risk at the tertiary end, those people who need to be focused on with deterrence and prosecution. Those people who are a threat to our communities, it’s not just diversion. #WeCops |
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@JohnRobertMc
10 February 2021 21:09
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@WeCops In Lancashire we have tried mental health support cars, early action, support for drug use and education/support. It’s not all about enforcement. We need to involve PH wherever we can...for me in fairness it’s whatever works. Ultimately that’s all that matters #WeCops |
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@JJSharpers
10 February 2021 21:09
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@SuptSrivastava @WeCops As a frontline cop and as a Mum, bringing up 3 boys, in London, I welcome the public health approach. But I want to see it, not just hear about it. #wecops |
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@mcraddock
10 February 2021 21:09
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Policing working with Partners, aka #localgov. An opportunity to join in. #wecops https://twitter.com/HindleLinda/status/1359609479306891265 |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:09
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@julievigo @WeCops Covid is a great example of a public health approach in policing as we all have a common public sector outcome to prevent harm #wecops |
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@LancsVRN
10 February 2021 21:09
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@TheBigHon @WeCops Have a look on our website Rich https://www.lancsvrn.co.uk/ #wecops |
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@dadwithahat1
10 February 2021 21:09
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@TheBigHon @WeCops As I understand it. It’s about the type of approach used in that sphere to solve issues. #WeCops |
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@GorillaoJustice
10 February 2021 21:09
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@CCARhodes @WeCops We’ve worked with @OUHospitals and @TVP_Oxford and some excellent data work with @lewis_mayling and @OTheAnalyst shows how both sets of data are needed. We also look at council data around social care and educational data. That’s a great start for the @TV_VRU #wecops |
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@CoopMPConnor
10 February 2021 21:09
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@WeCops Well for a start the proactive approach of police forces working in partnership with local health services to improve mental health signposting and the redirection of policing actions to support actions. This is vital in preventing the criminalisation of illness. #wecops |
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@WeCops
10 February 2021 21:10
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Please remember to add the hashtag to all of your answers so we can see what you have to say when we review the chat :) #WeCops https://t.co/vyFB12fcVX |
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@DetectiveHelen
10 February 2021 21:10
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@WeCops Looking deeper than just the symptoms (crime) and understanding what the causes are so that meaningful changes can be made to policy and informed prevention strategies will be more effective #wecops |
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@TheBigHon
10 February 2021 21:10
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@LancsVRN @WeCops Will do... #WeCops |
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@dadwithahat1
10 February 2021 21:10
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@DCSSueClarke @WeCops I keep forgetting !!! Sorry ma’am ! #Wecops |
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@Graham_Goulden
10 February 2021 21:10
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@WeCops A PH approach for me is 2 parts. First contain and manage and second develop partnerships to address the norms that support violence. Tackling Covid presents an ongoing example. #wecops |
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@SLLancs
10 February 2021 21:10
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@WeCops #wecops I recall the early divert schemes in Lancashire in partnership with Lancashire Women’s Services were a great success in terms of reducing reoffending by getting the health / social support in early |
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@DirectorSueLVRN
10 February 2021 21:10
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RT @HindleLinda: Good evening #WeCops - Q1 -An opportunity to focus on the root causes of demand and inequality by working with partners an… |
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@mark74brown
10 February 2021 21:10
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@WecopsCaroline @WeCops From experience in Prevent this was an issue because somebody has to ‘hold the risk’ via the case management of individuals but PHA is less about individuals & rather a multi-agency alliance to problem solving...any of it needs a strategy with MoU’s in place #wecops |
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@JohnRobertMc
10 February 2021 21:10
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@SuptSrivastava @WeCops Absolutely boss. That’s always been hard for us as it’s so hard to quantify as we know. When things are hard to measure it’s hard to understand value when resources are tight. But so right and necessary. #WeCops |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:11
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@WeCops But it’s also about who is AT risk not just who those who ARE a risk. Taking the approach that there are risk factors which put people at risk, those factors can be identified for early intervention, same principles applies to health risk ie risk of diabetes #wecops |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:11
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@WeCops The best I’ve seen of #publichealth #multiagency engagement has been @a_smithRMN’s (& team) work to reduce police attendance at #mentalhealth incidents. Getting folk the right help, first time. More recently it’s great to see the effort that has gone into the #pandemic #WeCops Q1 |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:11
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@WeCops #wecops I’d like to see a PH toolkit - we need to recognise PH opportunities to be able to deliver them. At the moment it’s too easy to default to enforcement - let’s educate explain and engage (nicked it from Covid) |
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@HindleLinda
10 February 2021 21:11
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@TheBigHon @SuptSrivastava @WeCops Great description in this document https://www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/Support/uniformed-policing-faculty/Documents/Public%20Health%20Approaches.pdf #wecops |
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@WeCops
10 February 2021 21:11
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RT @DInsp_AndyHorne: @WeCops #wecops I’d like to see a PH toolkit - we need to recognise PH opportunities to be able to deliver them. At th… |
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@SuptLeeBerryWYP
10 February 2021 21:11
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@WeCops #WeCops there’s still work to be done to show that it compliments Problem Solving (POP) and not here to replace @RachelAStan |
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@GorillaoJustice
10 February 2021 21:11
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@lewis_mayling @WeCops To fix things properly it’s an approach from birth. You also need to educate future parents that will prevent the problems occurring in the first place. #wecops |
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@joanne_hopkins
10 February 2021 21:12
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@WecopsCaroline @WeCops #wecops thanks Caroline. I think context is key. This is a big group in a relatively small nation. The structures that bring these partners together and governance that ensure responsibility is not left to others is critical, but challenging. |
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@mussa_meman
10 February 2021 21:12
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@WeCops #wecops |
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@westieross
10 February 2021 21:12
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@WeCops West Yorkshire Police worked with the Universities of Sheffield and York on a @N8research small grant - Embedding Mental Health Support within District Police Stations: developing an evaluation framework for an innovative multiagency response to mental health crises #WeCops |
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@AndyRhodes_OK
10 February 2021 21:12
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@GorillaoJustice @lewis_mayling @WeCops @vruscotland #wecops spot on long term political commitment (funding) required & acceptance effort today won't deliver a quick outcome |
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@DirectorSueLVRN
10 February 2021 21:13
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@DInsp_AndyHorne @WeCops Like that Andy #WeCops |
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@mark74brown
10 February 2021 21:13
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@DCSSueClarke @SgtJJSharps @SuptSrivastava @WeCops That’s the honest answer for this example ??...but the huge efforts being made in policing around all this are bound to get results in the future...the understanding is there it just needs a national strategy etc now to establish it all #wecops |
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@Graham_Goulden
10 February 2021 21:13
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@WeCops A public health approach doesn’t mean police don’t do their job holding people accountable. It just means they do that with a wider lens #wecops |
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@BurcuBorysik
10 February 2021 21:13
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@lewis_mayling @WeCops Yes, absolutely this. can we all start talking about secondary/tertiary prevention in this space? #wecops |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:13
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@CCARhodes @WeCops Absolutely, but we also hold data on people’s health ie exposure to trauma , such as domestic abuse, which can aid health in both strategic decisions and clinical tactical one #wecops |
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@Clare_Kelly_
10 February 2021 21:13
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@WeCops #wecops for me and @BedsPCC it's about turning the tap off. Prevention rather than cure. Our violence reduction is built on it as is our drug/alcahol conditional caution work. I like to think of it as a full review into the actual problem not the effects |
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@ChrisDrixon
10 February 2021 21:13
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@WeCops Continuing to partner with each Department we can. The multi agency work is fantastic, they each welcome our support too. Public health is about conserving the impact from multiple angles, offering support, recognition of vulnerability, increasing prevention of harm #WeCops |
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@JohnRobertMc
10 February 2021 21:14
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@DInsp_AndyHorne @WeCops One of the issues for PH is COVID. It is, has and probably will dominate the PH demands for a long time to come. Will make involving health so much more difficult I fear. #WeCops |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:14
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@SuptSrivastava @WeCops #wecops - I read about inter generational PHA around Australian Aboriginal cultural problems and see opportunities to link to some of our societal issues. |
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@JJSharpers
10 February 2021 21:14
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@WeCops It may be controversial, but too often, we look at ‘redistribution’ of the problem rather than solving it. A public health approach would help us towards this #wecops |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:14
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RT @CCARhodes: @GorillaoJustice @lewis_mayling @WeCops @vruscotland #wecops spot on long term political commitment (funding) required & acc… |
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@Graham_Goulden
10 February 2021 21:14
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@CCARhodes @WeCops Think evidence suggest only 30% of violence is reported so why wouldn’t poking want more data to make decisions. #wecops |
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@AndyRhodes_OK
10 February 2021 21:15
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@GorillaoJustice @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @lewis_mayling @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU #wecops ?? was looking at US data on predicted increase in autism /ADHD in young adults from 5-15% in 15 years thought police need to understand this |
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@WalktheTalk999
10 February 2021 21:15
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#wecops https://twitter.com/walkthetalk999/status/1359611794004787203 |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:15
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@SgtJJSharps @WeCops The Divert programme led CI Jack Rowland in the Met is seen as a public health approach http://www.newerafoundation.uk/divert The London VRU have undertaken a lot of PHA workstreams. #wecops |
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@JJSharpers
10 February 2021 21:16
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@WeCops I mean moving it to another area #wecops |
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@DirectorSueLVRN
10 February 2021 21:16
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@mark74brown @SgtJJSharps @SuptSrivastava @WeCops But strategies need bringing to life with activity particularly in leadership roles #WeCops |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:16
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RT @CCARhodes: @GorillaoJustice @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @lewis_mayling @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU #wecops ?? was looking at US data on pr… |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:17
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@DInsp_AndyHorne @WeCops Sir Michael Marmots work? #wecops |
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@mussa_meman
10 February 2021 21:17
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@JohnRobertMc @WeCops We need to become ever more wedded to other agencies and and organisations. Pooling of resources, potentially budgets, sharing of data and all working from the same base. Responses may be more effective, help/support secured earlier &longer term positive outcomes achieved #wecops |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:17
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@CCARhodes @GorillaoJustice @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @lewis_mayling @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU Sir, I’d be interested to read this if you can share the link please? Thanks ?? #autism #WeCops Q1 #publichealth |
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@TheBigHon
10 February 2021 21:17
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RT @HindleLinda: @TheBigHon @SuptSrivastava @WeCops Great description in this document https://www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/Support/uniformed-policing-faculty/Documents/Public%20Health%20Approaches.pdf #wecops |
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@heyman_inga
10 February 2021 21:17
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@HindleLinda @WeCops Good evening #WeCops I agree with Linda! @HindleLinda I think public health approaches to policing still recognises that there is a whole load of work central to our own sectors, but the common ground we share is much clearer. The collective will to collaborate is strong. |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:17
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@CCARhodes @GorillaoJustice @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU This article also makes the point about crime and health overlapping in hotspots #wecops https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1043986219832132 |
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@LindseyBampton
10 February 2021 21:17
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@mark74brown @WecopsCaroline @WeCops Never know if I can join in since am not #wecops but similar has been picked up in last week's Children's Commissioner report "Still not safe" https://www.childrenscommissioner.gov.uk/report/still-not-safe/ https://t.co/3C6l5wGPdz |
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@WeCops
10 February 2021 21:18
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RT @HindleLinda: @TheBigHon @SuptSrivastava @WeCops Great description in this document https://www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/Support/uniformed-policing-faculty/Documents/Public%20Health%20Approaches.pdf #wecops |
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@AndyRhodes_OK
10 February 2021 21:18
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#wecops true Dave i've always found if you put frontline from right agencies together they do PH&P without thinking ....until their respective systems clip their wings https://twitter.com/WalktheTalk999/status/1359611794004787203 |
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@joanne_hopkins
10 February 2021 21:18
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@DInsp_AndyHorne @WecopsCaroline @WeCops #wecops (sorry) |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:18
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@DCSSueClarke @WeCops I see lots of links to IOM which would benefit from a PHA mindset and culture. Need to push nontraditional outcomes and reset what success looks like. #wecops |
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@GorillaoJustice
10 February 2021 21:18
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@CCARhodes @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @lewis_mayling @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU That’s an interesting element to look at because UK vs US psychiatry have diagnostically different approaches https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/070674377401900302 #wecops |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:18
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@JohnRobertMc @WeCops Plus we are a task focussed, process driven, command and control type organisation and a lot of PHA work is long term solutions #wecops |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:18
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RT @CCARhodes: #wecops true Dave i've always found if you put frontline from right agencies together they do PH&P without thinking ....unti… |
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@mark74brown
10 February 2021 21:19
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@DCSSueClarke @SgtJJSharps @SuptSrivastava @WeCops Is this where policing has to be more plural in terms of the PHA side of it all? Working from a national strategy that then filters to regional & then local...like CT policing is structured...then working with other agencies that are coterminous to geographical boundaries #wecops |
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@DenM85
10 February 2021 21:19
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@WeCops If someone can actually give me a realistic answer as to what the long term solution is to reducing violent crime then I am all ears, you only have to took at the reoffending rates in this country since records began to see how prison isn’t the solution either #wecops |
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@LancsVRN
10 February 2021 21:19
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@mark74brown @WeCops Absolutely. Looking at the root causes and applying interventions at a population level. #wecops https://t.co/aXsXadScNd |
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@WeCops
10 February 2021 21:20
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Q2 What could we do to improve public health approaches in policing? #WeCops https://t.co/GSAAUFvtSQ |
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@WalktheTalk999
10 February 2021 21:20
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@WeCops As an ex CBM local councils saw crime as the responsibility of the police despite a change in the law which very defo made it there’s as well. They never got it IMHO #wecops |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:20
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@joanne_hopkins @WecopsCaroline @WeCops #wecops - that sounds similar to current IOM blueprint so we might just need to reset targeted outcomes. Rehabilitation and reducing reoffending can benefit from PHA focus. |
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@HindleLinda
10 February 2021 21:20
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RT @CKellyH: @WeCops #wecops for me and @BedsPCC it's about turning the tap off. Prevention rather than cure. Our violence reduction is bui… |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:20
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RT @WeCops: Q2 What could we do to improve public health approaches in policing? #WeCops https://t.co/GSAAUFvtSQ |
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@mark74brown
10 February 2021 21:21
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@LindseyBampton @WecopsCaroline @WeCops Not just police on here Lindsey...more the merrier and in fact better if people from other sectors or the general public contribute...#wecops |
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@westieross
10 February 2021 21:21
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@Graham_Goulden @WeCops I had a discussion with a doctor at Glasgow Royal Infirmary last year about the Project Navigator scheme when I had to attend A&E due to a problem. This was an EI initiative to engage with people about accessing support services while present in the hospital, I think? #WeCops |
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@ktbg1
10 February 2021 21:21
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RT @WeCops: Q2 What could we do to improve public health approaches in policing? #WeCops https://t.co/GSAAUFvtSQ |
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@mark74brown
10 February 2021 21:21
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RT @LindseyBampton: @mark74brown @WecopsCaroline @WeCops Never know if I can join in since am not #wecops but similar has been picked up in… |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:21
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@WeCops This just about sums it up for me....#wecops https://t.co/sgrZ1ryzjs |
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@mussa_meman
10 February 2021 21:21
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RT @HindleLinda: Good evening #WeCops - Q1 -An opportunity to focus on the root causes of demand and inequality by working with partners an… |
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@GorillaoJustice
10 February 2021 21:21
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@lewis_mayling @CCARhodes @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU But it isn’t just health. Socioeconomic impact is a key aspect of crime prevention. Council Tax payments, schooling provision and data on exclusions and truancy (remind me of my idea when we speak) all give a really surgical picture to assist to tailor the response #wecops |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:22
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RT @WeCops: Q2 What could we do to improve public health approaches in policing? #WeCops https://t.co/GSAAUFvtSQ |
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@WalktheTalk999
10 February 2021 21:22
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@CCARhodes Sometimes you just have to do the right thing. Which isn’t always as rigid policy dictates/ time constraints/ immediate harm. #wecops |
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@GorillaoJustice
10 February 2021 21:22
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@mgdeakin @lewis_mayling @WeCops @CCARhodes @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU Poverty, education, housing. All flashing indicators #wecops |
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@JoeCaluori
10 February 2021 21:22
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@WeCops Perhaps better data sharing across social care, health, police and housing would enable earlier, holistic, decisive interventions? #WeCops |
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@WecopsCaroline
10 February 2021 21:22
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@LindseyBampton @mark74brown @WeCops #WeCops is open to everyone ?? https://t.co/QbiqfihSfO |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:22
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@WeCops #wecops - ACES need directly linking to current VD&I policy - massive overlap and same sensitive positive approach |
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@HindleLinda
10 February 2021 21:22
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@JohnRobertMc @DInsp_AndyHorne @WeCops It is may also be the spark to increase everyone's focus on prevention and wellbeing? #wecops |
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@ChrisDrixon
10 February 2021 21:23
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@WeCops Discuss good practise just as we are all now. Align prevention strategies between agencies. Enable more Secondments between and amongst one another #WeCops |
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@DirectorSueLVRN
10 February 2021 21:23
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@GorillaoJustice @lewis_mayling @WeCops Too right #WeCops |
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@BurcuBorysik
10 February 2021 21:23
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@WeCops Four things you can do: Involve. Identify. Innovate. Inform. https://revolving-doors.org.uk/file/2548/download?token=tk_eqnIB #WeCops |
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@dyslexicsarge
10 February 2021 21:23
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@WeCops Expand the knowledge between all departments, get people thinking about different approaches, and multi agency working. #wecops |
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@Graham_Goulden
10 February 2021 21:23
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@WeCops Ensure officers understand what it is. Keep it simple for officers. Leadership is key. Many officers still reluctant to listen to outside influence and that enforcement is best option. Aim to spark curiosity and communicate what the benefits are for policing as a whole #wecops |
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@RoseEmpower
10 February 2021 21:23
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@WalktheTalk999 @WeCops Those folk of goodwill are picking up the slack for the will nots #wecops |
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@TomGaymor
10 February 2021 21:23
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@WeCops Trauma informed policing, focusing on prevention, intervention and diversion, collective safeguarding. #WeCops |
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@mark74brown
10 February 2021 21:24
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@LindseyBampton @WecopsCaroline @WeCops What you’ve tweeted defines this topic tonight...good to see it’s on the agenda across all types of safeguarding etc...thanks Lindsey #wecops |
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@dyslexicsarge
10 February 2021 21:24
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@WeCops Different outcomes and preventative measures #wecops |
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@mcraddock
10 February 2021 21:24
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@lewis_mayling @CCARhodes @GorillaoJustice @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU Is it linked to poverty? #wecops End poverty. Universal income? |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:24
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@WeCops Integrated place based working where we pool budget and commission services together. #wecops |
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@AllotmentCop
10 February 2021 21:24
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@WeCops Actually provide training to officers about it, give them the knowledge to want to engage and get involved. The vast majority have no idea about it #WeCops |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:24
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@WeCops Reposting on this Q2. For me this. we could, across the partnership take this approach to prevention with shared strategic aims and analysis #wecops https://t.co/dcfOhDol7E |
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@AndyRhodes_OK
10 February 2021 21:24
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@PC717Sazzles @GorillaoJustice @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @lewis_mayling @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU It's from some insights work the guy showed me it on a call recently I'll source it tho #wecops his study was looking at overwhelming data exposure leading to inability to pay attention |
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@SimpleRobJanes
10 February 2021 21:24
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@WeCops #WeCops More communication with the public. I suspect awareness is generally pretty poor. (Or I might just be especially ignorant.) |
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@WalktheTalk999
10 February 2021 21:24
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@Visible__Girl @WeCops That too #wecops |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:24
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@BurcuBorysik @WeCops And learn from lived experience #wecops |
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@WeCops
10 February 2021 21:25
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Great responses to our Q's so far and some really interesting discussion topics! Plsss use the hashtag #WeCops in all of your answers or @CCLeicsPolice gets very cross! #WeCops https://t.co/uJsJaL24JM |
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@BurcuBorysik
10 February 2021 21:25
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@GorillaoJustice @lewis_mayling @CCARhodes @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU Yup. And how many police and crime plans include socio-economic factors and deprivation in the Equality Impact Assessment? Clue: not that many #WeCops |
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@JoeCaluori
10 February 2021 21:25
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@WeCops We did some analysis for this report which found that young people often had frequent but low quality interactions with support services - with little join up #wecops https://www.crestadvisory.com/post/report-violence-and-vulnerability |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:25
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@HindleLinda @JohnRobertMc @WeCops #wecops definitely think the preventative / proactive approach is best - we need to get upstream (cheesy). Need to really push ACE intervention as early as poss. |
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@GorillaoJustice
10 February 2021 21:25
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@WeCops @lewis_mayling Problem Solving analysts. And a central data management system & operators who understand how to turn data into operational information that allows us to identify accurate demand, risk, threat and harm. Oh hang on a minute aren’t @OTheAnalyst & @lewis_mayling doing this? #wecops https://t.co/ApzYH7BlzG |
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@SLLancs
10 February 2021 21:25
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@WeCops IMO collaborative work with health with clear boundaries of roles rather than police having to dual role with competing demands and ever changing strategies/approaches. This makes it confusing for the public - are police there to support or prosecute #wecops |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:25
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@carmenwhittle @WeCops If we do what we have always done we will get what we have always got #wecops |
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@JohnRobertMc
10 February 2021 21:25
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@mussa_meman @WeCops That so difficult. We have such different priorities. I had an example today that I clearly can’t discuss but made this ever so apparent. #WeCops |
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@Graham_Goulden
10 February 2021 21:26
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@WeCops Encourage a prevention mindset at all levels. It must not be reserved for specialists only. #wecops |
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@AndyRhodes_OK
10 February 2021 21:26
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@GorillaoJustice @mgdeakin @lewis_mayling @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU Poverty Safari highly recommended on this very subject #wecops |
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@HaywireHarris
10 February 2021 21:26
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@WeCops Policing needs culture change. We need to focus on the task of delivering outcomes via preventative strategies. We are too focused on formal outcomes, rather than the right outcome. Although the courts can be the right outcome. Rarely does it solve the underlying issues. #wecops |
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@JohnRobertMc
10 February 2021 21:26
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@SuptSrivastava @WeCops Yeah, it means fundamental change and that’s always hard. Maybe though very worth it #WeCops |
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@LancsVRN
10 February 2021 21:26
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@JoeCaluori @WeCops For us this is the approach being adopted in the ADDER projects being run in Blackpool, Norwich, Hastings and Middlesbrough. #wecops |
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@LancsVRN
10 February 2021 21:26
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@JoeCaluori @WeCops Good call. Better data sharing is fundamental. #wecops |
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@HindleLinda
10 February 2021 21:26
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RT @lewis_mayling: @WeCops This just about sums it up for me....#wecops https://t.co/sgrZ1ryzjs |
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@Clare_Kelly_
10 February 2021 21:26
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@WeCops #WeCops having a central focus for commissioners of preventative services in local authorities to work with police would really help. At an operational level they got it but higher it takes a lot of explanation to get us all on the same page |
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@mcraddock
10 February 2021 21:27
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#WeCops Help me out here. PHA = ? PA = ? |
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@JJSharpers
10 February 2021 21:27
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@WeCops I, as a police officer will sense something isn’t right. We need to educate parents with the signs. We need to have a line open to us where they can talk without fear of criminalising their kids, but helping them, preventing them going down that road. #wecops |
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@Jason_Peter_
10 February 2021 21:27
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#WeCops Q1 - a bit but loads to learn. For me it’s looking at the bigger picture - no one person/agency alone has the solution & when we acknowledge that we can then look at steps to manage a problem, intervene earlier when issues first arise & develop true preventative models. https://twitter.com/wecops/status/1359608082393833472 |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:27
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@mcraddock @CCARhodes @GorillaoJustice @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU Defiantly a huge link to poverty, but more than that. will be links to services in the area, air quality, transport, equity of opportunities in government services etc but we can understand and improve these. #wecops |
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@OwenTheAnalyst
10 February 2021 21:27
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@WeCops Sims training wouldn’t hurt - I’m doing a very good @PHE_uk @R_S_P_H course at the moment which is giving a great foundation alongside PH professionals from across the Thames Valley #wecops |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:27
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@Graham_Goulden @WeCops You are right Graham it heavily relies on progressive leaders within organisations that are willing and able to learn from mistakes and try new things #wecops |
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@Maggie_Blyth
10 February 2021 21:27
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@WeCops 1. Joint priorities set at local level to reduce high harm 2. Investment in joint commissioning to reduce demand/need/risks 3. Acceptance that outcomes must be clear for prevention and enforcement 4. Performance dashboard that shows outcomes #wecops |
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@OPCCHumberCEO
10 February 2021 21:27
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@WeCops An area of interest we’ve been looking at for some time in Humberside. We’re early stages of establishing a public health approach to violence reduction focussing on Domestic Abuse in first instance. Partnerships are in place, analyst running baseline. Watch this space! #wecops |
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@Graham_Goulden
10 February 2021 21:27
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@WeCops As said communicate the ‘what’s in it for policing message’. For me the reciprocity is - reduced season,and, safer communities, less violence, less exposure to violence by officers. God cops might actually get meal breaks back #wecops |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:27
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@CCARhodes @GorillaoJustice @mgdeakin @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU Absolutely #wecops |
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@DetectiveHelen
10 February 2021 21:27
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@WeCops We need to physically work together more - specifically in regards to mental health - the police need to be accompanied to MH calls with trained MH worker to give the best service to the person in need #wecops |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:27
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@WeCops To commit a crime esp violence normally occurs because of an underlying reason. Prosecution / enforcement shouldn’t be the first option but once the police get involved, it rarely ends up in a therapeutic result. We need to change our internal ‘desired targets’ #WeCops Q2 |
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@mussa_meman
10 February 2021 21:27
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@JohnRobertMc @WeCops I agree that it will be challenging and requires a mammoth effort from all parties. Not suggesting it’ll solve the issues faced, but it would, in all likelihood, make a huge difference. Too hard to do box shouldn’t mean it can’t done. #wecops |
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@_clarejackson
10 February 2021 21:27
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@WeCops #WeCops employ senior public health leaders/professionals within the constabulary who can understand the context and organisational structures and work with officers collaboratively to transform and tweak bespoke practice for the local context |
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@SuptLeeBerryWYP
10 February 2021 21:27
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@WeCops #WeCops Cultural change is required through understanding...it’s not a soft option. Also embedding into other strategies such as the menu of tactics used to address Serious Organised Crime. VRUs are crucial in joining the dots to operational policing @wy_vru @SY_VRU @RachelAStan |
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@GorillaoJustice
10 February 2021 21:28
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@BurcuBorysik @lewis_mayling @CCARhodes @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU Well it was something I was looking at with @OTheAnalyst before he went to the @TV_VRU and correct me if I’m wrong but that’s something being looked at now? #wecops |
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@WalktheTalk999
10 February 2021 21:28
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@WeCops You know as cops we make things work. If we were a business bankrupt we could still turn a profit. There are too many limits to responsibilities of other agencies. We would never go home knowing there was a family in need or sit on a risk for several days. #wecops |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:28
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@SuptSrivastava @WeCops #wecops - we do information sharing well at MASH MARAC MAPPA but could benefit from a similar multiagency problem solving approach at community / issue level. eg licensing working more closely with inspire to better understand addiction |
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@JohnRobertMc
10 February 2021 21:28
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@DInsp_AndyHorne @HindleLinda @WeCops We do try that now but the problem is ACE themselves are completely endemic in so many households. We have mutual generations now of criminality, neglect and awful parenting. It needs root change #WeCops |
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@westieross
10 February 2021 21:28
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@JoeCaluori @WeCops Not only data sharing but potentially shared local strategic objectives across partner agencies in line with MH Concordat could be useful? Shared funding pots for frontline crisis care first response, but should be health led?#WeCops |
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@IslandServant
10 February 2021 21:28
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@WeCops #wecops need to get a greater & far more detailed awareness of what is being done collaboratively within jurisdictions to understand the route causes to mental health, the capacity in which to reduce harm and what interventions are in place and what’s missing |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:28
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RT @JohnRobertMc: @SuptSrivastava @WeCops Yeah, it means fundamental change and that’s always hard. Maybe though very worth it #WeCops |
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@HaywireHarris
10 February 2021 21:28
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@WeCops As already by mentioned by someone; primary, secondary and tertiary stages of delivering preventative care/outcomes. Can be a very effective approach, as we have found in Beds for mentally vulnerable offenders. #wecops |
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@Graham_Goulden
10 February 2021 21:28
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@SuptSrivastava @WeCops Also you make it ok for officers who get it to talk freely. Just now many get the approach but feel they will be seen as soft. No this is smart policing. #wecops |
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@Clare_Kelly_
10 February 2021 21:29
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@HaywireHarris @WeCops #wecops I agree, outcome 22 could be considered more as an educational outcome |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:29
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RT @Jason_Peter_: #WeCops Q1 - a bit but loads to learn. For me it’s looking at the bigger picture - no one person/agency alone has the sol… |
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@JoeCaluori
10 February 2021 21:29
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@GorillaoJustice @WeCops @lewis_mayling @OTheAnalyst The analytical capacity within policing is often badly under resourced - surely investment is needed to respond to the opportunities of big data and track evolving threats - a public health model needs that capacity #wecops |
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@DirectorSueLVRN
10 February 2021 21:29
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@Graham_Goulden @WeCops Totally agree Graham. Leadership is key #Wecops |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:29
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@JohnRobertMc @HindleLinda @WeCops #wecops - yup - local approach to endemic problems. |
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@joanne_hopkins
10 February 2021 21:29
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@WeCops #wecops I think our main learning from EAT in Wales is the government prioristisation of one public service. This cannot just be the police, it takes systems change, a paradigm shift to prevention and ministerial prioristisation. You need all sectors to sign up (and prioritise) |
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@IslamicChaplain
10 February 2021 21:29
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@WeCops Having the right people involved. This entails knowing the "who" from public services providers, businesses and charities/volunteer organisations. #WeCops |
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@WalktheTalk999
10 February 2021 21:29
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@WeCops I do think cops needs a better understanding of ACE etc. That doesn’t mean they have to get it/ feel it - just consider it on there decision making process #wecops |
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@RevDoors
10 February 2021 21:30
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The preventative measures, including diversion schemes set up & supported by the police forces across the country are reducing the number of children entering the criminal justice system. We can do the same for young adults. Give us your support #WeCops: https://revolving-doors.org.uk/file/2548/download?token=tk_eqnIB |
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@PCRotherham
10 February 2021 21:30
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@WeCops I think a barrier to this is data sharing and knowledge around such laws (and barriers created by such laws). Partner agencies & Police want to do what's best for the person, but this is a stumbling block as not sure what can be disclosed in quick time. #WeCops |
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@TomGaymor
10 February 2021 21:30
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@WeCops Up skill and develop frontline officers, collective thinking is important when it comes to delivering a trauma informed approach. #WeCops |
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@AndyRhodes_OK
10 February 2021 21:30
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@WeCops #wecops also look at workforce trauma exposure as a way of opening up awareness of trauma in others we come into contact with - #samebrains I've found this v useful |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:30
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@BurcuBorysik @GorillaoJustice @CCARhodes @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU Definitely work to do but our Strategic Needs Assessment does, we want it to be a living document though that we can track these measures at any time, not just once a year #wecops |
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@mark74brown
10 February 2021 21:30
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@WeCops National strategy for each PHA to crime/safeguarding type that’s then aligned regionally then locally...coterminous with other sectors involved geographically...getting the whole police family educated to the benefits so they understand what it is & why it’s being done #wecops |
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@GorillaoJustice
10 February 2021 21:30
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@CCARhodes @mgdeakin @lewis_mayling @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU Read it. Great book recommended to me by one of the following but can’t remember who so @lewis_mayling @DirectorVRU or @Graham_Goulden #wecops https://t.co/S5X6r2csxI |
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@TiggyWhiffing
10 February 2021 21:30
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@JoeCaluori @WeCops couldn't agree more #wecops |
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@PCRotherham
10 February 2021 21:30
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RT @WeCops: Q2 What could we do to improve public health approaches in policing? #WeCops https://t.co/GSAAUFvtSQ |
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@JoeCaluori
10 February 2021 21:31
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@westieross @WeCops This is an interesting point - how do the geographic boundaries around public services inhibit joint strategic approaches? #wecops |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:31
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@DetectiveHelen @WeCops A lot of forces already have this approach in the form of #StreetTriage but it’s not without its own set of challenges. Mostly legality. #WeCops Q2 |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:31
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@OTheAnalyst @WeCops @PHE_uk @R_S_P_H Be good to know a bit more about the course #wecops |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:31
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@WalktheTalk999 @WeCops #wecops - link ACE to VD&I. |
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@JohnRobertMc
10 February 2021 21:31
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@WeCops We need to consider direct recruitment (with a chunk of their budgets) of health and social workers. Bring them into our can do, must do mentality. Ultimately though it’s now early we intervene. Education is as important as public health if not more so #WeCops |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:31
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@mcraddock @CCARhodes @GorillaoJustice @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU Absolutely, there are mapped services with government agencies and assets, such as parks and green spaces available too which it’s all possible to bring together to understand the risk terain #wecops |
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@Graham_Goulden
10 February 2021 21:31
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@WeCops I think how we discuss it with wider society is important also. They have been pedalled the tough on crime narrative for decades. They can’t be expected to get it straight away. Again what’s in it for them. Talk about the benefits and that enforcement remains an element #wecops |
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@joanne_hopkins
10 February 2021 21:31
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@WeCops We also need to sort out our common understanding of terms like trauma informed. What do we actually mean? #wecops |
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@WeCops
10 February 2021 21:32
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#WeCops https://twitter.com/opcchumberceo/status/1359616068269015041 |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:32
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@LancsVRN @JoeCaluori @WeCops #wecops - love encompass too. |
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@GorillaoJustice
10 February 2021 21:32
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@JoeCaluori @WeCops @lewis_mayling @OTheAnalyst Or when you get a really good analyst they get stolen....#notbitter #wecops |
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@westieross
10 February 2021 21:32
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@WeCops Given significant efforts to gather and discuss learning and good practice in policing Covid-19 which is coordinated nationally (through NPoCC, I think) which involves significant police and health partner cooperation, a similar approach for MH and EI could be worthwhile? #WeCops |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:32
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RT @joanne_hopkins: @WeCops #wecops I think our main learning from EAT in Wales is the government prioristisation of one public service. Th… |
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@OPCCHumberCEO
10 February 2021 21:32
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@WeCops Sorry forgot my #wecops |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:32
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@DetectiveHelen @WeCops Working together builds trust and mutual respect. We have seem some real progress on the Violence Reduction Units by working closer with a common outcome. #wecops |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:32
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@JoeCaluori @GorillaoJustice @WeCops @OTheAnalyst ?? #wecops but it’s possible, we’ve just got to be determined |
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@DirectorSueLVRN
10 February 2021 21:33
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@JohnRobertMc @WeCops Now that's a great idea #wecops |
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@AndyRhodes_OK
10 February 2021 21:33
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@GorillaoJustice @mgdeakin @lewis_mayling @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU @DirectorVRU @Graham_Goulden @DirectorVRU on the #wecops i see hope all is well north of the wall Niven don't mention last saturday plse |
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@TiggyWhiffing
10 February 2021 21:33
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@DenM85 @WeCops by recognising that violence can't be tackled by one agency alone. We need to share data, work across multi-agencies and understand the social determinants for violence with a wide lens, to prevent, not just react. #wecops |
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@mark74brown
10 February 2021 21:33
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@WeCops Whilst there’s brilliant teams etc out there in individual forces it’s isolated best practice/methods which = results at the moment...but early days...IMO it does need all tying into together from the centre then it will work #wecops |
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@mike200hope
10 February 2021 21:33
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@Graham_Goulden @SuptSrivastava @WeCops Challenge of shifting the organisational culture away from being enforcement focused #wecops |
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@PCRotherham
10 February 2021 21:33
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@WeCops Topics like this I find intriguing. I'd like to counter to say - what are our partner agencies doing to improve in this field and work collaboratively with Police? #WeCops |
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@WalktheTalk999
10 February 2021 21:33
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@DInsp_AndyHorne @WeCops Yes defo. But then get into the argument of when does the offender become a victim? Crime cannot be tolerated. Where do we sit with contempt v sympathy? #wecops |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:33
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#wecops this is true, but we are determined to make a difference in this space @TV_VRU https://twitter.com/joecaluori/status/1359615513450708994 |
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@SuptLeeBerryWYP
10 February 2021 21:34
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@DetectiveHelen @WeCops Same for children who regularly go missing - in the absence of immediate concern/safeguarding ensure the person closest to the child who understands what’s happening is there to provide support #WeCops @WYP_CHankinson |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:34
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@WalktheTalk999 @WeCops ACE awareness is being hugely misused / misunderstood across many sectors and needs to be used properly for it to be effective, not just within policing. Equally individuals may not be ready to face their trauma which has a huge impact on this around them. #WeCops Q2 #Behaviours |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:34
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@SuptSrivastava @Graham_Goulden @WeCops #wecops I love hearing from people who have overcome societal problems - rehabilitated offenders, ex user drug counsellors, later learners. Can we get more experts to share their experiences? |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:34
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@Maggie_Blyth @WeCops Opportunity to truly deliver place based approaches. Need integrated leadership from policing/partners working to common goals. Barrier will be culture I guess to pooling budgets but there are some real options to commission together #wecops |
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@HindleLinda
10 February 2021 21:35
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@joanne_hopkins @WeCops perhaps this would be a helpful piece for us to work on across the 4 nations Jo? #wecops |
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@ChairHC
10 February 2021 21:35
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@CCARhodes @GorillaoJustice @mgdeakin @lewis_mayling @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU @Graham_Goulden Hi Andy all well here - getting fed up with lock down like everyone else - glad to see your wisdom still being imparted #wecops - don’t begrudge us a wee bit of joy we waited 38 years ?? |
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@DirectorSueLVRN
10 February 2021 21:35
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@Graham_Goulden @WeCops Very sensible approach Graham. The litmus test of the Daily Mail reader. The message of tackling the root cause #Wecops |
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@GSDvine
10 February 2021 21:35
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@TomGaymor @WeCops #WeCops Staffordshire troubled families intervention brings all partners together, only together can we provide early intervention and diversion to collectively safeguard ?? |
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@WalktheTalk999
10 February 2021 21:35
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@PC717Sazzles @WeCops Oh how misused/misunderstood? #wecops |
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@Jason_Peter_
10 February 2021 21:35
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#WeCops Q2 - people need to see it working in practice to believe & understand it . Everyone has a part to play in making this work & creating the environment where it’s the right thing to do. Needs more than just words-research it, try it, tweak it & tell stories of what works. https://twitter.com/wecops/status/1359613109183205378 |
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@AndyRhodes_OK
10 February 2021 21:35
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RT @HindleLinda: @TheBigHon @SuptSrivastava @WeCops Great description in this document https://www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/Support/uniformed-policing-faculty/Documents/Public%20Health%20Approaches.pdf #wecops |
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@PCRotherham
10 February 2021 21:35
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@WeCops Often by the time information is shared with Police, or a person becomes known, it's we because we then have an aggrieved - we can't always go down alternative methods - it's not proportionate to what's being investigated, or to what the aggrieved would consider "justice" #WeCops |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:36
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@TomGaymor @WeCops #wecops - police now officers seem to be particularly good at this! Hoping direct entry will bring in practitioners from across PHA. |
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@joanne_hopkins
10 February 2021 21:36
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@WeCops Working with our communities, with those who are living with experience, find out what works; and to stop doing things that don't work. PHA advocates reviewing impact. We need to be brave sometimes and change tack. Listen to what people need not what we think they need #wecops |
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@mark74brown
10 February 2021 21:36
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@PCRotherham @WeCops Same issues CT policing has had with other agencies when delivering the Prevent strategy...it was a frustration for me & colleagues and needs ironing out and defined at the outset to avoid this #wecops |
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@mussa_meman
10 February 2021 21:36
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@PCRotherham @WeCops #wecops |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:37
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@WalktheTalk999 @WeCops #wecops - I look to avoid victim suspect and just aim at vulnerability cause and consequence |
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@Graham_Goulden
10 February 2021 21:37
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@DInsp_AndyHorne @SuptSrivastava @WeCops It’s also about creating the situation where people feel connected. Ultimately the person takes the steps. The situation permits that. Public health supports that. #wecops |
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@_clarejackson
10 February 2021 21:37
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@JohnRobertMc @WeCops PH spend 5 years refining the ‘art and science’ of public health. We shouldn’t expect to achieve ph approaches without the right expertise embedded within! #Wecops |
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@GorillaoJustice
10 February 2021 21:37
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@Graham_Goulden @WeCops Today I spent the day with my homelessness team writing a process that makes sure everything we do is support and help. The enforcement element is there under last resort. We have some excellent relationships with @TurningPointUK & @HrMReductionist supporting our work #wecops |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:37
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@PCRotherham @WeCops Many agencies hide behind #DataProtection when in fact there are perfectly legal channels to share such data & when shared properly can make a huge difference to the overall outcomes. We need to be sensible with what we share but often aren’t able to access the basics. #WeCops Q2 |
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@westieross
10 February 2021 21:37
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@JoeCaluori @WeCops I think in relation to MH our local NHS Trust covers both parts of South and West Yorkshire and therefore two force areas and (soon) two Mayors. Potentially scope for reform in the forthcoming shakeup of NHS reported in media recently? #WeCops |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:37
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RT @CCARhodes: @WeCops #wecops also look at workforce trauma exposure as a way of opening up awareness of trauma in others we come into con… |
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@suzanneharvey
10 February 2021 21:37
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@WeCops As a front line cop in Lancs, not very much. We get told that it happens, but not actually shown what it actually means. If the uniform officers understood it better, there would be more buy-in. #wecops |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:37
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@DirectorVRU @CCARhodes @GorillaoJustice @mgdeakin @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU @Graham_Goulden Wee bit! You battered us #Wecops |
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@ChairHC
10 February 2021 21:37
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#wecops - stop believing that the police have all the answers. Truly engage, share outcomes and budgets - deliver bottom up not top down https://twitter.com/jason_peter_/status/1359617036985511946 |
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@PCRotherham
10 February 2021 21:38
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@mussa_meman @WeCops I agree there are things in place, but not always known. From experience, it can be like getting blood from a stone - from both Police & partner agencies. #WeCops |
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@RoseEmpower
10 February 2021 21:38
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@WalktheTalk999 @WeCops I agree with @PC717Sazzles ACEs are used as new buzzwords and some orgs are using it as a diagnostic tool yet the ACEs movement has been around for 20+ years and the U.K. is only just catching on to the repercussions so it could be argued some of it is outdated #wecops |
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@Jason_Peter_
10 February 2021 21:38
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#WeCops Q2 - needs to be wider than policing too. Collectively we need to understand the local landscape, identify opportunities to do something different & enable that. Joining the dots is crucial. https://twitter.com/jason_peter_/status/1359617036985511946 |
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@mussa_meman
10 February 2021 21:38
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@PCRotherham @WeCops It’s a fair counter. However, if we keep working in silos and with for others to do their bit, we forget the human being at the centre of it all who requires help. #wecops |
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@Jason_Peter_
10 February 2021 21:38
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RT @DirectorVRU: #wecops - stop believing that the police have all the answers. Truly engage, share outcomes and budgets - deliver bottom u… |
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@NoushD_
10 February 2021 21:38
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@SgtJJSharps @WeCops #wecops |
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@Graham_Goulden
10 February 2021 21:38
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@GorillaoJustice @WeCops @TurningPointUK @HrMReductionist Change the name to ‘the people without homes’ unit. See the person #wecops |
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@PCRotherham
10 February 2021 21:39
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@PC717Sazzles @WeCops Agreed - A few years ago attended a child neglect job at a school, the school had years worth of records that the child had come in hungry, ripped clothes, bruises etc - none of it had been passed to Police prior, staff quoted data protection at me. #WeCops |
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@WalktheTalk999
10 February 2021 21:39
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@PCRotherham @WeCops I’ve not found that tbh. In fact talking to my PSD mates the only time cops got into bother was not disclosing material. safeguarding trumps all and I’ll always disclosure material if it meets that purpose. #wecops |
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@GorillaoJustice
10 February 2021 21:39
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@lewis_mayling @DirectorVRU @CCARhodes @mgdeakin @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU @Graham_Goulden He doesn’t need any encouragement....luckily I’ve got some Welsh in me! #wecops https://t.co/J99KRB138r |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:39
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@CCARhodes @WeCops This exactly! When you make #secondarytrauma an awareness it focussing the mind on hearing what isn’t being said. Behaviours are the unspoken words - an inability to express oneself suitably. #WeCops Q2 |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:39
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@Maggie_Blyth @WeCops #wecops - gotta get IAGs involved. |
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@mussa_meman
10 February 2021 21:39
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@PCRotherham @WeCops Depending on the nature of what we’re dealing with, we could consider prosecution and work with individuals and partners to change educate and change outcomes. #wecops |
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@WeCops
10 February 2021 21:40
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Q3 Where have public health approaches in policing worked well, share your positive learning? Please use the hashtag #WeCops https://t.co/liCXeH2QKy |
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@joanne_hopkins
10 February 2021 21:40
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@HindleLinda @WeCops There are discussions going on in the 5 nations group on ACEs...so I think we can! It will be a challenge but the will is there if we can connect our dots. Welsh Govt is keen to understand better what we mean in policy terms. Let's discuss further #wecops |
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@AndyRhodes_OK
10 February 2021 21:40
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@WeCops #WeCops we see many frontline staff (in all agencies working with complex need clients) lose hope and meaning so we can improve how we make decisions & their well being by raising awareness of things like ACEs = more meaningful work |
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@PCRotherham
10 February 2021 21:40
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@PC717Sazzles @WeCops It happens, and either data protection laws need to be scrapped and consolidated across agencies - or all parties need to start thoroughly myth-busting. Data Protection is important but we have gotten to a point where it's bureaucratic to the point it's endangering people #WeCops |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:40
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@westieross @WeCops Day 5 of the four nations conference is all about PHA to crisis particuarly COVID http://www.virtual4nations.uk #wecops |
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@NoushD_
10 February 2021 21:41
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@SgtJJSharps @WeCops #wecops |
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@ktbg1
10 February 2021 21:41
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RT @WeCops: Q3 Where have public health approaches in policing worked well, share your positive learning? Please use the hashtag #WeCops ht… |
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@TiggyWhiffing
10 February 2021 21:41
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@BurcuBorysik @GorillaoJustice @lewis_mayling @CCARhodes @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU there is definitely some way to go with this, but it hasn't gone unrecognised. It's a key element to the local needs assessments being produced by the @LancsVRN to support crime prevention decision-making on a district level #wecops |
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@Kaurbethechange
10 February 2021 21:41
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@WeCops #wecops I work in Partnership and Prevention there is a lot going on and far better joint up Policing with partners than ever before, but in my humble opinion PH is a wider issue linked to parenting, social deprivation and cultures it’s not solely a Police matter. Much wider |
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@CCLeicsPolice
10 February 2021 21:41
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@WeCops A tad perplexed #wecops |
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@WalktheTalk999
10 February 2021 21:41
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@DInsp_AndyHorne @WeCops We can use whatever words we choose. It doesn’t change our response and responsibilities. Most of the detectives I work with consider and are aware of the suspects needs as much as the victim #wecops |
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@PCRotherham
10 February 2021 21:41
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@WalktheTalk999 @WeCops I think Police are better at disclosing information, but getting it from partners can be difficult. #WeCops |
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@mussa_meman
10 February 2021 21:42
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@suzanneharvey @WeCops I think you’re on the money with this. Unless you have time to read up on what forces are doing, how they’re doing it, what our own force is doing etc, you are unlikely to know what other departments are doing and the positive outcomes they’re achieving. #wecops |
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@DetectiveHelen
10 February 2021 21:42
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@WeCops Drug diversion @jqjasonkew #wecops |
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@AndyRhodes_OK
10 February 2021 21:42
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@JohnRobertMc @WeCops #wecops agree & I recall being accused of recruiting 'social workers' when we made '2 yrs experience of working with complex need client groups' an entry requirement - they seem to be doing ok so far! |
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@WalktheTalk999
10 February 2021 21:43
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@PCRotherham @WeCops Can be. That why PND’s are vital in the early stages of an investigation #wecops |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:43
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@WeCops A lot of the VRU have a strong foundation in PHA #wecops There are some non Vru forces as well such as Devon and Cornwall or Gloucestershire #wecops |
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@heyman_inga
10 February 2021 21:43
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@JohnRobertMc @WeCops #WeCops I understand the frustration and reasoning for bringing police, health and social care into a shared space. Not sure I agree that nurses need to be taught by police the can do, must do mentality. I learned that as a frontline health worker! |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:43
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@WeCops #wecops - only dipped a toe in, but I managed to link VRN objectives into MOSOVO work around managing violent offenders. Not managed to get upstream yet, but by monitoring my violent cohort, I can identify opportunities for PHA with partners. |
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@AstonLiz
10 February 2021 21:43
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@WeCops Q2 reduce/stop doing things that Have the opposite of the desired impact /impact negatively on ability to deliver public health approach eg prevention & harm reduction over enforcement when it comes to drugs #wecops |
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@TomGaymor
10 February 2021 21:43
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@DInsp_AndyHorne @WeCops I am a huge advocate for recognising transferable skills in recruitment and/or being able to specialise on entry (DE) ???? #WeCops |
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@mark74brown
10 February 2021 21:43
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@_clarejackson @WeCops On that is there capacity for a MASH that is embedded within to specifically co-ordinate and task out etc to the relevant teams in all multi-agencies involved...I’ve worked with MASH’s and they have great value...this version of one would be strategic as an idea? #wecops |
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@beyondbehaviour
10 February 2021 21:44
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@DetectiveHelen @WeCops Seeing so many parallels in this discn with changing approaches to behaviour in schls. More & more tchrs learning to look beyond the behaviour to poss underlying causes #wecops |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:44
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@mcraddock @CCARhodes @GorillaoJustice @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU Yep, with local to global data. There’s some fantastic work in this space by Eric Rice with AI for social good. #wecops |
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@BurcuBorysik
10 February 2021 21:44
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@TiggyWhiffing @GorillaoJustice @lewis_mayling @CCARhodes @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU @LancsVRN We are very happy to support forces and OPCCs to do this well. New local elections an opportunity to refresh strategies too. Just get in touch. #WeCops |
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@Dugargol
10 February 2021 21:44
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@WeCops #wecops Let the supplier engage with the less tech savvy users during the design stage. That way when a new solution is implemented there isn't a huge learning curve. |
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@ChairHC
10 February 2021 21:44
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@Jason_Peter_ It’s all very well training cops to be trauma informed but the problem is how to deliver that on a daily basis - it’s a culture - a change of approach looking to solutions not addressing the issue as it presents #wecops 1/ |
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@JohnRobertMc
10 February 2021 21:44
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@WeCops We’ve got to get the message across that it’s a ‘clear & present danger’ as we’ve seen with C19 PH meet it head on. The NHS in particular with the C19 response, the vaccine roll out etc. If we properly ramp the danger PH will face it as they have C19 & results will come #WeCops |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:44
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@WeCops There have been quite a few examples in the four nations conference this week and the College of Policing have sent a calls for practice where most forces have replied http://www.virtual4nations.uk #wecops |
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@scleph
10 February 2021 21:44
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@LancsVRN
10 February 2021 21:44
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@WeCops #wecops http://www.lancsvrn.co.uk/divert-custody-programme https://t.co/3SkckPXsxS |
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@HindleLinda
10 February 2021 21:44
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@suzanneharvey @WeCops Perhaps we over complicate it. Essentially its moving from 'what have you done' to 'what has happened to you' Looking behind the symptom (crime) to the cause #wecops |
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@TomGaymor
10 February 2021 21:45
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@GSDvine @WeCops Great to hear, this trauma informed, partnership approach is so important ???? #WeCops |
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@scleph
10 February 2021 21:45
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#wecops https://twitter.com/suptsrivastava/status/1359617612641148928 |
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@WalktheTalk999
10 February 2021 21:45
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@WeCops MASH - can be a course altering input in the early stages of an investigation. So much info can be gained. Police officers don’t use MASH enough. V helpful and can give info on minutes #wecops |
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@HaywireHarris
10 February 2021 21:45
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@WeCops #wecops in a hospital, I work with a team of consultants doctors, nursing staff and social workers. We all bring something unique to the table. Though the person with the most important voice at the table is the suspect themselves. Listen to what they are saying! |
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@CCLeicsPolice
10 February 2021 21:45
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@WeCops Not very cross, or even cross, but perhaps a tad perplexed #wecops |
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@TiggyWhiffing
10 February 2021 21:45
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RT @LancsVRN: @WeCops #wecops http://www.lancsvrn.co.uk/divert-custody-programme https://t.co/3SkckPXsxS |
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@WalktheTalk999
10 February 2021 21:46
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@WeCops Personal relationships between cops and social workers. When it’s good info sharing is good #wecops |
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@JacquiHawley1
10 February 2021 21:46
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@WeCops 2/2 Public Health approach is working in collaboration to understand the root causes of the vulnerability that exists & address the causes of the cause to prevent the symptoms continuing at a primary secondary & tertiary level #WeCops |
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@ChairHC
10 February 2021 21:46
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@Jason_Peter_ Therein lies the rub - the public look to the police to suppress the issue, make it disappear. But it doesn’t. We concentrate on stop and search but public health happens before that - why does a person pick a knife up? #breakthecycle #wecops 2/ |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:46
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@PCRotherham @WeCops I’m challenged for over sharing information. I only ever share to keep individuals safe, whether that be members of the public and/or colleagues. I understand my boundaries but how many times have #SeriousCaseReviews slammed agencies for a lack of info sharing ??????? #WeCops Q2 |
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@Graham_Goulden
10 February 2021 21:46
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@WeCops I see success all over the UK. The very fact it’s being discussed In this way is a success in itself. We recognise we can’t police our wait of issues such as violence and drugs. The language of prevention is there and it needs to be consistent. #wecops |
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@CoastSafe_DandC
10 February 2021 21:46
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@WeCops 1. Understand what problem(S) you are trying to solve 2. Understand who is best placed to solve them 3. Get those best placed to solve them around a table or *Teams table 4. Figure out how best to solve said problem(S) 5. Act 6. Tea & medals #WeCops *other platforms available |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:46
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@DInsp_AndyHorne @WeCops Leicestershire are doing some excellent work where they do a prevention assessment for people in custody including their wider families. ACC Sandell gave a presentation on this at the 4nations event which can be viewed on demand http://www.virtual4nations.uk #wecops |
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@TiggyWhiffing
10 February 2021 21:46
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RT @HaywireHarris: @WeCops #wecops in a hospital, I work with a team of consultants doctors, nursing staff and social workers. We all bring… |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:46
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@Graham_Goulden @SuptSrivastava @WeCops #wecops - love this. Helping people feel connected. Can we re-chip Neighbourhood Watch to become Public Health advocates? |
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@Jason_Peter_
10 February 2021 21:46
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#WeCops Q3 - @vruscotland have a proud history in innovation & projects underpinned by the public health approach. Document looking at the story, impact & future challenges of the SVRU available at: http://www.svru.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/VRU_Report_Digital_Extra_Lightweight.pdf https://twitter.com/wecops/status/1359618142348087296 https://t.co/dtsLCMtSYm |
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@mark74brown
10 February 2021 21:46
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@WeCops Prevent...although the police ‘hold the risk’ the upstreaming & signposting can do a lot of good for individuals who are all part of the vulnerability strand of that particular strategy...national strategy...regional governance...local implementation & delivery #wecops |
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@beyondbehaviour
10 February 2021 21:46
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@Graham_Goulden @GorillaoJustice @WeCops @TurningPointUK @HrMReductionist Words are so impt. They reflect how we perceive reality, rather than reality itself. And how we perceive informs our subsequent actions #wecops |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:46
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RT @WeCops: Q3 Where have public health approaches in policing worked well, share your positive learning? Please use the hashtag #WeCops ht… |
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@HaywireHarris
10 February 2021 21:47
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@richardharwin @NHS_ELFT #wecops ?? teamwork makes the dream-work! |
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@SLLancs
10 February 2021 21:47
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@WeCops #wecops already said it but Lancashire Constab - early diversion & changing enforcement policing approaches to sex workers at a strategic level based on ground up national data pre National guidance ???? still talk about all this years later for other forces to learn |
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@AstonLiz
10 February 2021 21:47
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@WeCops Q2 2/2 Wider system /social policy interventions & public health Based approach instead of Policing & enforcement... divert eg drugs needs a health & societal not criminal justice solution #wecops |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:47
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RT @CCARhodes: @WeCops #WeCops we see many frontline staff (in all agencies working with complex need clients) lose hope and meaning so we… |
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@Kaurbethechange
10 February 2021 21:47
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@WeCops #wecops controversial as this may be; maybe going back to Borough or Sector policing (smaller areas) to realistically manage the demand. The challenges are vast with growing county lines, cse crossing over into two councils. The need4realistic delivery thats maybe measurable? ?? |
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@joanne_hopkins
10 February 2021 21:47
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@WeCops #wecops Take a look at the police and partners website in Wales http://www.aces.me.uk all our resources are on there aswell as the latest report #wecops |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:47
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@HaywireHarris @WeCops Sounds like everyone comes with a specialist skill for a common outcome which is a good PHA #wecops |
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@GSDvine
10 February 2021 21:47
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@TomGaymor @WeCops Absolutely Consider ACES with high support high challenge and acknowledgement that we don’t all have the answers but together we can make a difference #WeCops |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:48
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RT @Jas_2317: @WeCops #wecops I work in Partnership and Prevention there is a lot going on and far better joint up Policing with partners t… |
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@BurcuBorysik
10 February 2021 21:48
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@LancsVRN @WeCops Yes, yes, yes. And using community resolutions whenever possible. Back us up @jqjasonkew #wecops |
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@HindleLinda
10 February 2021 21:48
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@Jas_2317 @WeCops Jas, I agree - definitely much wider than policing. A public health approach is about working across partners and systems #wecops |
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@SuptLeeBerryWYP
10 February 2021 21:48
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@WeCops #WeCops funding of the #VRUs I know @SY_VRU have brought together the 4 Local Authorities to deliver the response strategy identified by the needs assessment. Also diversion schemes such as @PlanBNavigators and the community engagement led by @RachelAStan are having great effect |
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@JohnRobertMc
10 February 2021 21:48
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@heyman_inga @WeCops I realised after I’d written that how it may sound (sorry). I don’t mean front line nurses. I mean the more holistic, 9-5 style of a lot of partners. Not all. I’m in awe (as I’ve hinted at in other tweets) how the step up to C19 for example has happened in the NHS #WeCops |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:48
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@mcraddock @CCARhodes @GorillaoJustice @WeCops @OUHospitals @TVP_Oxford @OTheAnalyst @TV_VRU ?? we have a look. We’ve got some stuff happening with ONS too. You’re right though about open free resources, not making enough of it. Need more skills around open source languages #RStats #wecops (didn’t think I’d get those hashtags together) |
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@TomGaymor
10 February 2021 21:49
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@WeCops No doubt @DIVERTLondon and @DIVERTYouth have been great successes, and this success is growing nationally as well @DIVERTLancs @DIVERTThamesV ???? #WeCops |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:49
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@SuptSrivastava @WeCops #wecops prevention assessment sounds like something we are already doing but with different aims - our risk management plans. Ours focus on individual supervision but could be more holistic around family / community risk. |
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@LancsVRN
10 February 2021 21:49
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@HaywireHarris @WeCops We've been developing an Emergency Department Navigators programme which is showing good results. #wecops https://t.co/HMY18NN4CG |
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@WalktheTalk999
10 February 2021 21:49
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@mark74brown @WeCops Sorry Mark that sounds grand. Unfortunately I haven’t a clue what you have said. That’s no good to me as a cop on the ground with a high risk incident. #wecops |
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@CCLeicsPolice
10 February 2021 21:49
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@SuptSrivastava @DInsp_AndyHorne @WeCops I agree! #wecops @VRNGrace @VR_Network @ACCSandall |
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@Kaurbethechange
10 February 2021 21:49
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@IslamicChaplain @WeCops #wecops absolutely and we are, but of course they will always be areas we can improve on and must ???? inclusivity is one thing delivery is another. We can host meetings all day to evidence inclusivity and it’s key, but maybe there’s more? ???? |
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@heyman_inga
10 February 2021 21:49
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@WeCops #Wecops Pleased you found LEPH2019 valuable Rachel! Just in case you have not seen it, LEP2021 is next month in Philadelphia...online this year but with a fantastic programme @LEPH21 @GLEPHA @SCLEPH https://leph2021philadelphia.com/ |
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@mark74brown
10 February 2021 21:49
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@WeCops Not withstanding that Prevent is in the non-criminal space which is where the PHA is established...deals with individuals but the mission is to stop people becoming involved in terrorism...working with multi-agencies in the process #wecops |
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@joanne_hopkins
10 February 2021 21:49
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@WeCops #wecops really great work in Wales too from @WalesVPU : go to https://www.violencepreventionwales.co.uk/ for resources on taking PH approach |
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@ChairHC
10 February 2021 21:50
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@AstonLiz @WeCops There are generations of cops trained to enforce drugs and with a belief that the public expect that. As in many things we need to have a better informed public and that will allow space for the change that’s needed #wecops |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:50
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@WeCops Lancs VRN have a trauma informed readiness tool to help any organisational self assess how trauma informed their practice is. It has been used by numerous multi-agency partners to help their organisational development #wecops https://www.lancsvrn.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Lancs-VRN-Trauma-Informed-toolkit.pdf |
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@ChairHC
10 February 2021 21:51
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@CCLeicsPolice @SuptSrivastava @DInsp_AndyHorne @WeCops @VRNGrace @VR_Network @ACCSandall Good people #wecops @FightBach |
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@ellarabaiotti
10 February 2021 21:51
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@DInsp_AndyHorne @DCSSueClarke @WeCops I agree around the link between IOM, effective probation practice and public health approach - understanding the problems and testing interventions-diversion etc. Some of this is not new. #WeCops |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:51
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@WalktheTalk999 @WeCops Social care locally have established an adult out reach time. Locally NPT Officers can refer straight in - it’s fab! Multiagency working is the way forward ... every sector holds different information - a tiny bit of which may be the key to the concerns! #WeCops Q3 |
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@DirectorSueLVRN
10 February 2021 21:51
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@beyondbehaviour @WeCops @DetectiveHelen Exactly the same approach needed #Wecops |
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@joanne_hopkins
10 February 2021 21:51
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@WeCops #wecops also in Wales we have the @acehubwales which together with @ACEsPoliceWales is looking at that system transformation with funding from Welsh government. We work with devolved partners and are closely aligned with @WalesVPU http://www.aceawarewales.com |
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@AndyRhodes_OK
10 February 2021 21:52
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#WeCops Burcu is right here https://twitter.com/BurcuBorysik/status/1359620225285713920 |
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@JacquiHawley1
10 February 2021 21:52
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@SuptSrivastava @WeCops Lack of VRU funding shouldn't be inhibitor to driving forward Public Health approach I reached out to other forces & partners who have been more than willing to share learning & support the evolution of our approach @DC_Police We have all got alot to share ?? #WeCops |
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@HaywireHarris
10 February 2021 21:52
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@LancsVRN @WeCops I was @MPSCamden / @MPSIslington 's (Central North) NHS liason. I saw that there was so much potential to engage victims of violence. Good work! #wecops |
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@CCLeicsPolice
10 February 2021 21:52
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@DirectorVRU @SuptSrivastava @DInsp_AndyHorne @WeCops @VRNGrace @VR_Network @ACCSandall @FightBach Grateful receivers of others experience @DirectorVRU ! #wecops |
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@Kaurbethechange
10 February 2021 21:52
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@NoushD_ @WeCops #wecops this is great. I set up ACT for Youth in CT. The challenge is unlike Prevent which is a duty there is no capacity in the school curriculum to share products, but maybe parents yes, but how ? Keen to learn the ‘how’ and happy to promote this @MPSHaringey @MPSEnfield ???? |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:52
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@SuptLeeBerryWYP @WeCops @SY_VRU @PlanBNavigators @RachelAStan Needs assessment have been a strong foundation for our work. Only when we pooled data from different agencies did we have a better understanding of the issues and how to assist communities with them #wecops |
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@WalktheTalk999
10 February 2021 21:52
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@AllotmentCop @WeCops Probably but they do know to register an interest with them when they create a PVP or VA #wecops |
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@CCLeicsPolice
10 February 2021 21:52
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#wecops https://twitter.com/VRNGrace/status/1359090565774770180 |
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@EBKN13
10 February 2021 21:52
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@WeCops How can policing and officers have a more active and well known role in the empathy support and success? #wecops https://t.co/tdSvw4cx2g |
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@JohnRobertMc
10 February 2021 21:52
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@WeCops The M/A mental health cars we had in Lancs spring to mind. I think at one point we had NHS paramedics in our control rooms. Great ideas that we lost during times of austerity. There have been more, close working with SUDI nurses are another massive example for me in CP #WeCops |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:53
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RT @Jason_Peter_: #WeCops Q3 - @vruscotland have a proud history in innovation & projects underpinned by the public health approach. Docu… |
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@LancsVRN
10 February 2021 21:53
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@SLLancs @WeCops Learning beyond that has included individuals becoming part of the Police family to support and make positive changes to peoples lives Shona. #wecops |
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@CoopstheCop
10 February 2021 21:53
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@WeCops Poverty Truth Commission - huge eye opener. #wecops |
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@mark74brown
10 February 2021 21:53
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@WalktheTalk999 @WeCops The Prevent strategy in CT policing...you come across somebody who raises a concern about their vulnerability to being radicalised (same as groomed or coerced) and you refer them to Prevent as an eg...does that make sense? #wecops |
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@GorillaoJustice
10 February 2021 21:54
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@WeCops Some PH Approaches here in. @TVP_Oxford supported by @TV_VRU 1. Divert 2. @raw_yp Navigator programme 3. @OUHospitals Navigator work 4. MADE Network involving all statutory partners 500 children supported in a year. 5. @OxfordCity joint task force and Streetwise #wecops |
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@TiggyWhiffing
10 February 2021 21:54
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@SuptSrivastava @SuptLeeBerryWYP @WeCops @SY_VRU @PlanBNavigators @RachelAStan it's all in the evidence base! #wecops |
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@GorillaoJustice
10 February 2021 21:54
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RT @WeCops: Q3 Where have public health approaches in policing worked well, share your positive learning? Please use the hashtag #WeCops ht… |
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@EBKN13
10 February 2021 21:54
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@WeCops Having Youth Work Training and qualifications/modules into the new Police degree apprenticeship programmes. Policing for the future creating a more remedial than penal mindset? #wecops |
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@ChairHC
10 February 2021 21:54
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@SuptJHawley @SuptSrivastava @WeCops @DC_Police We certainly have - a public health approach can be delivered in a wider policing structure but it takes time to develop and has many obstacles to overcome - not least the suggestion of being soft in crime - public engagement is crucial #wecops |
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@JBDyslexic
10 February 2021 21:54
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@WeCops #wecops How can we expect to understand PHA when the service does not understand or support their own staff around MH, PTSD and trauma! Prime example is ignoring medical practitioners advice in favour of perceived organisational need!! @DisabledPolAssn |
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@dyslexicsarge
10 February 2021 21:54
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@WeCops Mental health access line, mash, early action, Lancashire wellbeing all useful and helpful tools for front line officers in Lancashire. We need to share information better in force as we don't always know what's available unless we ask. Early action is a key link to that. #wecops |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:54
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@SuptJHawley @WeCops @DC_Police Some great work in Devon and Cornwall from mainstream funding #wecops |
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@LancsVRN
10 February 2021 21:54
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@SuptSrivastava @WeCops #wecops More Resources to view on our website https://www.lancsvrn.co.uk/ |
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@Graham_Goulden
10 February 2021 21:54
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A.number of vrus are developing the MVP model. Covid has presented many challenges there’s commitment to following the evidence #wecops https://twitter.com/suptleeberrywyp/status/1359621222481465346 |
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@HindleLinda
10 February 2021 21:54
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@Jas_2317 @WeCops Its about recognising if the behaviour is a symptom of something deeper and putting in place support to avoid being back at square 1. This support may be from others in the partnership. Not all the job of the police #wecops |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:54
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This #wecops https://twitter.com/suptsrivastava/status/1359621218031329282 |
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@WeCops
10 February 2021 21:55
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RT @LancsVRN: @SuptSrivastava @WeCops #wecops More Resources to view on our website https://www.lancsvrn.co.uk/ |
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@Kaurbethechange
10 February 2021 21:55
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@EBKN13 @WeCops #wecops agree. In @MPSHaringey @MPSEnfield I carried out a review identifying 74 opportunities for young people to engage, diversion and intervention programmes the opportunities are there, but not easily delivered and not solely Policing responsibility to divert its wider???? |
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@EBKN13
10 February 2021 21:55
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@WeCops Create and encourage and culture for on the beat officers to have the room, opportunity, support and funding for officers on the ground to create intervention, engagment or mentoring initiatives or projects. #wecops |
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@jqjasonkew
10 February 2021 21:55
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#wecops absolutely Burcu.. and be bold too, along with public consent, many offence types are ripe for an educational intervention instead of a punitive one... Better outcomes for the individual, the victim, community and society https://twitter.com/BurcuBorysik/status/1359620225285713920 |
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@ellarabaiotti
10 February 2021 21:55
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@WeCops Join the dots between public health policing and community safety partnership working, improving partnership data analysis, strategic assessments and local problem solving #wecops |
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@WeCops
10 February 2021 21:55
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RT @EBKN13: @WeCops How can policing and officers have a more active and well known role in the empathy support and success? #wecops https:… |
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@WalktheTalk999
10 February 2021 21:55
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@mark74brown @WeCops I have never come across those circumstances in CP but we often refer suspects to Samaritans, Lucy Faith Foundation and Project Nova for veterans #wecops |
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@Emily1kate
10 February 2021 21:55
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@WeCops @Gilmoursw @WAVE_Trust #wecops |
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@NoushD_
10 February 2021 21:55
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@Jas_2317 @WeCops @MPSHaringey @MPSEnfield Thank you. This has been promoted through SSOs and most of my attendees booked on after it being recommended by their child’s school. Would like to stretch this beyond East Area #wecops |
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@WeCops
10 February 2021 21:55
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RT @Jas_2317: @NoushD_ @WeCops #wecops this is great. I set up ACT for Youth in CT. The challenge is unlike Prevent which is a duty there i… |
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@mark74brown
10 February 2021 21:55
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@SuptSrivastava @WeCops There has to be a VRU for every force not just some...appreciate early days & funding is tight but there’s CL’s causing problems in all counties/force areas from Weymouth to Whitehaven #wecops |
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@AndyRhodes_OK
10 February 2021 21:56
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@WeCops #WeCops seeing VRU funding really pushing us along the right lines now this is our big opportunity to influence the decision makers using the research & data many are signposting us to tonight thank you @WeCops |
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@BurcuBorysik
10 February 2021 21:56
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RT @jqjasonkew: #wecops absolutely Burcu.. and be bold too, along with public consent, many offence types are ripe for an educational inter… |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 21:56
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@LancsVRN @SuptSrivastava @WeCops #wecops - looks good as an organisational tool. Will I be able to apply it to my departmental priorities on MOSOVO? |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:56
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RT @EBKN13: @WeCops How can policing and officers have a more active and well known role in the empathy support and success? #wecops https:… |
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@GorillaoJustice
10 February 2021 21:56
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@WeCops @TVP_Oxford @TV_VRU @raw_yp @OUHospitals @OxfordCity 6. MVP programme in TVP Schools by @Graham_Goulden 7. Every Safer Schools officer now trained by @OxfordshireCC education team in restorative practice 8. Missing & Exploitation Hubs working hand in hand with county #CCE teams and @TV_VRU referral work #wecops |
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@joanne_hopkins
10 February 2021 21:56
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@WeCops #wecops this report may be of interest in terms of evaluation of early help hubs and integrated social work in Wales (South Wales and Gwent) https://www.rsph.org.uk/static/1085078a-7bfe-4ca8-be6b34a2410c92df/PHW-EAT-Early-Intervention-Exec-Summary-final3.pdf |
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@ChairHC
10 February 2021 21:56
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@SuptJHawley @SuptSrivastava @WeCops @DC_Police It will also require true partnership and shared agendas. I have seen many meetings - we are great at them - where partners meet but the outcomes for the people who need the services are not evidently improved #wecops |
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@TiggyWhiffing
10 February 2021 21:56
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RT @CCARhodes: @WeCops #WeCops seeing VRU funding really pushing us along the right lines now this is our big opportunity to influence the… |
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@RobGoodwin3
10 February 2021 21:56
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@WeCops Wash our mugs more often #WeCops |
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@WeCops
10 February 2021 21:56
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RT @CCARhodes: @WeCops #WeCops seeing VRU funding really pushing us along the right lines now this is our big opportunity to influence the… |
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@Clare_Kelly_
10 February 2021 21:57
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@WeCops #WeCops appreciate the violence reduction units are working, but none of them are fully embedded because we have to go to year to year funding. |
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@Kaurbethechange
10 February 2021 21:57
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@NoushD_ @WeCops @MPSHaringey @MPSEnfield #wecops always keen to explore initiatives that save another young life. Please email me ???? |
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@CCLeicsPolice
10 February 2021 21:57
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RT @CCARhodes: @WeCops #WeCops seeing VRU funding really pushing us along the right lines now this is our big opportunity to influence the… |
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@beyondbehaviour
10 February 2021 21:57
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@DCSSueClarke @WeCops @DetectiveHelen It's v encouraging to tune in to this discn you are having within yr work. Great potential for stronger partnership working that truly places needs and best interests of young people at the centre. Shared lang based on shared values. #wecops |
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@PCRotherham
10 February 2021 21:57
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RT @CCARhodes: @WeCops #WeCops seeing VRU funding really pushing us along the right lines now this is our big opportunity to influence the… |
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@EBKN13
10 February 2021 21:57
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@WeCops Think this would help and link in with attracting a more diverse workforce not just in looks or backgrounds but also mindset where policing is more of understanding and fixing than what a lot of people can see it as just enforcement and punishment? #wecops |
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@NoushD_
10 February 2021 21:57
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@Jas_2317 @WeCops @MPSHaringey @MPSEnfield #wecops absolutely. Thank you ???? https://twitter.com/time1075_fm/status/1356670604892663808 |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 21:57
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@TiggyWhiffing @SuptLeeBerryWYP @WeCops @SY_VRU @PlanBNavigators @RachelAStan Without a doubt data and the evidence base at a population and local level are really important to help us understand what is required #wecops |
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@GorillaoJustice
10 February 2021 21:58
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This is how we work @jqjasonkew @WeCops #publichealthapproach #wecops ?? https://twitter.com/hrmreductionist/status/1359621545002491915 |
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@DirectorSueLVRN
10 February 2021 21:58
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@DirectorVRU @SuptJHawley @SuptSrivastava @WeCops @DC_Police That is definitely true Niven. Less meetings more doing with compassion and understanding #WeCops |
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@mcraddock
10 February 2021 21:58
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RT @EBKN13: @WeCops How can policing and officers have a more active and well known role in the empathy support and success? #wecops https:… |
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@_clarejackson
10 February 2021 21:58
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@SuptSrivastava @SuptLeeBerryWYP @WeCops @SY_VRU @PlanBNavigators @RachelAStan And the narrative of the reasons why we use data that might seem irrelevant and unconnected is so important when we use the needs assessments to change practice... housing, education, employment (social determinants of crime/the causes of the causes)! #wecops |
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@DannoReynolds
10 February 2021 21:58
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#WeCops https://twitter.com/Emily1kate/status/1359621928248557572 |
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@AlistairShield2
10 February 2021 21:58
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@WeCops We've had victim led, complainer led, ACE the next step? lets look at person centred practice in policing. The 4 Es are good RP done educate before enforce for years, policing alone never solves a problem but treating people as objects to be processed causes problems #wecops |
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@JacquiHawley1
10 February 2021 21:58
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RT @SuptSrivastava: @SuptJHawley @WeCops @DC_Police Some great work in Devon and Cornwall from mainstream funding #wecops |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 21:58
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@WeCops Let’s not forget the strategic partnership. bringing together PHE, health, LA, criminal justice, youth justice, police etc taking a similar language seeing the problem as joint. Whilst this has been the case before, for me the public health language is the biggest change #wecops |
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@LancsVRN
10 February 2021 21:59
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@JohnRobertMc @WeCops The 4nations conference presented a similar approach in Northern Ireland, which mirrors Psynergy in Lancashire, but is worth a watch. http://virtual4nations.uk #wecops |
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@WeCops
10 February 2021 21:59
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@Jas_2317 @NoushD_ @MPSHaringey @MPSEnfield Great connection here, great stuff ???? #WeCops good luck with it Anoushka |
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@EBKN13
10 February 2021 21:59
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@WeCops Also could you not argue with officers being involved with more positive activities and positives outcomes it could help with things like officer wellbeing, mental health or burnout because they would be more likely to see more positive outcomes and changes in people? #wecops |
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@DannoReynolds
10 February 2021 21:59
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#WeCops - sorry I am late to the party (duty called) and it looks like it is a really good chat! |
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@ChairHC
10 February 2021 21:59
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@DCSSueClarke @SuptJHawley @SuptSrivastava @WeCops @DC_Police I refuse to go to meetings unless I can see how services will be improved - there are far too many. When I was a sergeant I had a colleague who had a desk covered in files on a daily basis - he was hiding from doing his job #wecops |
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@PeteA86
10 February 2021 21:59
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@PC717Sazzles @WeCops #wecops I think we have to be careful not to provide an excuse for violence, agree we need to look at the causes. But this can be in addition to the correct prosecution. |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:59
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@EBKN13 @WeCops I found using #AdultRiskManagement Plans a fab tool in getting the right people around the table ... these identify the concerns raised, information known, action planning & owner (agency with most contact) & most importantly, it involves the individual throughout. #WeCops Q2 |
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@NoushD_
10 February 2021 21:59
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@WeCops @Jas_2317 @MPSHaringey @MPSEnfield Thank you #wecops |
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@AllotmentCop
10 February 2021 21:59
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@WecopsCaroline @WalktheTalk999 @WeCops Proper buzzword bingo tonight, it's like everyone is preparing for a promotion board and in all seriousness that's why the most cops will not engage #WeCops |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 21:59
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RT @jqjasonkew: #wecops absolutely Burcu.. and be bold too, along with public consent, many offence types are ripe for an educational inter… |
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@WeCops
10 February 2021 22:00
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That's it for tonight! Thank you to our hosts for running this brilliant chat. #WordCloud will follow at 22:30. A blog will follow once we have managed to pull all the learning... Thanks so much @CCARhodes @DCSSueClarke @SuptSrivastava @LancsVRN #WeCops https://t.co/PI7WVauEfu |
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@RevDoors
10 February 2021 22:00
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#WeCops can commit to young adults by: •involving young adults •identifying their needs •Innovation •Improving responses through evidence Commit to young adults here: https://revolving-doors.org.uk/file/2548/download?token=tk_eqnIB https://t.co/Qv60MW8GSz |
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@Kaurbethechange
10 February 2021 22:00
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@HindleLinda @WeCops ##wecops agreed, but who is responsible for recognising the symptom?Parents, schools, careers? If they have come 2our attention it’s likely the predators have already sought out the vulnerable 2groom. This is their day job to seek out the vulnerable to keep their business going |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 22:00
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RT @WeCops: Q3 Where have public health approaches in policing worked well, share your positive learning? Please use the hashtag #WeCops ht… |
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@acehubwales
10 February 2021 22:00
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RT @joanne_hopkins: @WeCops #wecops also in Wales we have the @acehubwales which together with @ACEsPoliceWales is looking at that system t… |
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@AndyRhodes_OK
10 February 2021 22:00
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@EBKN13 @WeCops @BurcuBorysik has some excellent papers on this very subject - basically divert even before the cell doors to alternative support #WeCops |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 22:00
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@WeCops @CCARhodes @DCSSueClarke @SuptSrivastava @LancsVRN Well done all ?? #wecops |
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@jqjasonkew
10 February 2021 22:00
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#wecops Heroin assisted treatment isn't a silver bullet on its own, but it's probably THE only way to dramatically reduce the Drug market and in doing so reduce harm and crime... Policing organised crime by public health https://twitter.com/WeCops/status/1359618142348087296 |
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@heyman_inga
10 February 2021 22:00
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@JohnRobertMc @WeCops #WeCops No need to apologise @JohnRobertMc.! I have worked in both police and health sectors so knew what you meant. I am just having a dig??. You have a point about the gap in services and potential some shared budgets if there is to be true collaboration. |
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@SuptLeeBerryWYP
10 February 2021 22:01
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#WeCops ?? https://twitter.com/suptleeberrywyp/status/1359622681486835719 |
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@SuptSrivastava
10 February 2021 22:01
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@DInsp_AndyHorne @LancsVRN @WeCops It was designed to be applied on any level or scale where leaders will find it useful #wecops |
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@PeteA86
10 February 2021 22:01
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@PC717Sazzles @WeCops #wecops perhaps look to CJS to introduce more mandatory therapeutic or obligation to work with MH/therapists/drug or alcohol services. |
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@CCLeicsPolice
10 February 2021 22:02
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@VRNGrace @LancsVRN Excellent #wecops |
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@SLLancs
10 February 2021 22:03
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@LancsVRN @WeCops #wecops brilliant work ...???? |
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@HindleLinda
10 February 2021 22:03
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@suzanneharvey @WeCops its about recognising if the behaviour is a symptom of something deeper and putting in place support to avoid being back at square 1. This support may be from others in the partnership. Not all the job of the police #wecops |
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@WalktheTalk999
10 February 2021 22:03
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@AllotmentCop @WeCops It does the same thing. I wouldn’t get hung up on it and certainly not a reason I would hope that cops don’t engage. They have a duty to safeguard #wecops |
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@Sarah_Cappers
10 February 2021 22:03
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RT @joanne_hopkins: @WeCops #wecops also in Wales we have the @acehubwales which together with @ACEsPoliceWales is looking at that system t… |
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@AllotmentCop
10 February 2021 22:03
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@WalktheTalk999 @WeCops But do they know the reasons why? Other than the control room won't close the CAD without a reference. That is the only reason most get completed and as a result the quality tends to be very poor with key information missing. #WeCops |
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@TiggyWhiffing
10 February 2021 22:03
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@WeCops @CCARhodes @DCSSueClarke @SuptSrivastava @LancsVRN great chat ???? #wecops |
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@DirectorSueLVRN
10 February 2021 22:03
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@DirectorVRU @WeCops @SuptJHawley @SuptSrivastava @DC_Police How is the service being improved and evidence of the voice of lived experience should be demanded #WeCops |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 22:03
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@carmenwhittle @WeCops #wecops Lancashire Talking needs to be the tool to connect with communities. Effectively we can develop a massive IAG. |
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@mark74brown
10 February 2021 22:03
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@WalktheTalk999 @WeCops Prevent works with MASH’s at times (if you’ve got one) to help assess vulnerability etc and also signpost us to the people from MH for eg to help co-ordinate a response to their needs if that’s the primary concern...yes not everybody knows about everything out there ??????? #wecops |
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@DetSuptBurnside
10 February 2021 22:03
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RT @WeCops: Q2 What could we do to improve public health approaches in policing? #WeCops https://t.co/GSAAUFvtSQ |
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@Kaurbethechange
10 February 2021 22:04
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@mark74brown @WeCops #wecops agreed |
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@WecopsCaroline
10 February 2021 22:04
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I don’t think we’ve ever been this organised!!!! #WeCops https://twitter.com/wecops/status/1359623427229908992 |
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@EBKN13
10 February 2021 22:04
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@WeCops Last point from me - If we were to go buy the principles then public health policing should be an integral part of every policing decision and officers mindset. Understand, invest and change in order to prevent crime before you have to enforce it. #wecops https://t.co/I5NU9bTCN9 |
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@ChairHC
10 February 2021 22:04
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@DCSSueClarke @WeCops @SuptJHawley @SuptSrivastava @DC_Police How about challenging rules that forbid the police from hiring people who made mistakes when they were younger. A conviction shouldn’t be a life sentence - what a message that would send #wecops |
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@CCLeicsPolice
10 February 2021 22:04
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@WeCops Mentors in Violence Intervention at A and E at 'reachable moment' Support in schools #wecops |
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@LancsVRN
10 February 2021 22:05
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Great chat tonight. Thanks for joining us! ?? #wecops https://twitter.com/WeCops/status/1359623175244423168 |
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@lewis_mayling
10 February 2021 22:05
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@WeCops #wecops https://twitter.com/michaelmarmot/status/1358739723766951937 |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 22:05
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@SuptSrivastava @LancsVRN @WeCops #wecops - that’s tomorrow sorted then. Apply it to East MOSOVO! |
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@ktbg1
10 February 2021 22:07
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@WeCops @CCARhodes @DCSSueClarke @SuptSrivastava @LancsVRN Great work! Thank you all for hosting, that was a very busy chat! #wecops |
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@Kaurbethechange
10 February 2021 22:07
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@Graham_Goulden @WeCops #wecops ???? key word ‘consistent’ Good point |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 22:07
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@PeteA86 @WeCops There is no excuse for violence, at all. However, if you have a young child who is frequently biting care givers (an assault), you have to ask why! When it turns out parents a frequently restraining due to unidentified underlying reasons, it starts to make sense. #WeCops Q2 |
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@beyondbehaviour
10 February 2021 22:07
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@suzannezeedyk @scimednet Here's another hopeful thought to add to your pot, Suzanne. I've just been 'ear-wigging' on #wecops discn tonight. Included exploring imptce of ACEs as part of public health informed approaches to policing ?????? |
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@JohnRobertMc
10 February 2021 22:07
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@heyman_inga @WeCops Phew I was worried I’d upset you. I see us all on the same side ultimately. We all want violence reduced for example. Massively so. Whatever works let’s do this. Let’s integrate and ‘assemble’ - not quite Avengers like but I do like a film reference. #WeCops |
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@PeteA86
10 February 2021 22:08
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@PCRotherham @WeCops #wecops agree with this, we play a vital part in partnership/local focus working. But the majority of early warning/intervention will come through housing/health/education or 3rd sector. So what are they doing to improve the PHA in the community? |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 22:08
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RT @RevDoors: #WeCops can commit to young adults by: •involving young adults •identifying their needs •Innovation •Improving responses thr… |
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@HindleLinda
10 February 2021 22:10
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@Jas_2317 @WeCops Exactly- this is the essence of a public health partnership approach. We all see it as our job to recognise then work together to support #wecops |
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@Kaurbethechange
10 February 2021 22:11
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@lewis_mayling @WeCops #wecops ????this says it all. Great share .. thank you ???? |
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@BurcuBorysik
10 February 2021 22:11
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A big shout out to all in #WeCops chat today. 4 asks developed by young adults with lived experience of the criminal justice system that will make a huge difference. If you're passionate about public health approaches, please pledge your support. https://twitter.com/RevDoors/status/1359623180420345861 |
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@PeteA86
10 February 2021 22:12
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@PCRotherham @WeCops #wecops by the time Police get involved usually there are offences committed and the CJS process begins. Could our partners share information earlier? Or is it a case of limited budget/resources being the main blocks preventing improvements |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 22:12
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@WeCops #wecops - would love to know more about charity / volunteer / academic sector roles in public health approaches. Would love an infographic to roadmap issues and partners available. Pick n mix partnerships? |
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@MR5CH
10 February 2021 22:12
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RT @WeCops: Q1 What do you know about Public Health approaches in policing? Please do remember to use the hashtag #WeCops so we can see a… |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 22:15
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@PeteA86 @PCRotherham @WeCops As an NPT Beat Manager I held monthly professional meetings with local contacts. Identify the risk, vulnerability or ‘that nervous concern’. What do we know? How do we unpick the issues? Who is best placed to get a foot in through the door? Let’s sort this approach! #WeCops #Q2 |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 22:15
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RT @BurcuBorysik: A big shout out to all in #WeCops chat today. 4 asks developed by young adults with lived experience of the criminal just… |
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@WecopsCaroline
10 February 2021 22:17
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RT @jqjasonkew: #wecops Heroin assisted treatment isn't a silver bullet on its own, but it's probably THE only way to dramatically reduce t… |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 22:17
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@DInsp_AndyHorne @WeCops As an NPT Beat Manager I had a folder of all the local agencies (charities included) ... as part of a #MultiAgency approach we approached the right group for the concern raised. If you don’t ask, you don’t get! We had some cracking results just by reaching out. #WeCops Q3 |
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@HindleLinda
10 February 2021 22:17
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@suzanneharvey @WeCops Hi Suzanne, yes I agree, this needs strong partnerships based on trust and a common purpose with a commitment to fund prevention #wecops |
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@PeteA86
10 February 2021 22:19
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@PC717Sazzles @PCRotherham @WeCops #wecops we do this in Cumbria, called a Local Focus Hub. But it still relies on partner data which we don't always get straight away. To look at PHA we need to be broader and look at entire communities and not just individuals or families. |
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@heyman_inga
10 February 2021 22:20
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@JohnRobertMc @WeCops #WeCops Nah, all good @JohnRobertMc! One of the facilitators to Public Health approaches to policing is we are share the same kind of humour..... |
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@DCI_AndyHorne
10 February 2021 22:20
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@jqjasonkew @WecopsCaroline #wecops - great example and points towards international context. Does PHA mean more lobbying for law changes? Remove stigma? |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 22:21
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@WalktheTalk999 @WeCops I’ve seen agencies use it as an excuse to go straight to enforcement unnecessarily! The blank looks I’ve received when I’ve insisted on sourcing a #TraumaInformed family support worker or counsellor, when I’ve looked at the family history on our crime system ??????? #WeCops Q2 |
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@CCLeicsPolice
10 February 2021 22:22
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@WeCops Our response to mental health It's not that long ago that 136s went to cells routinely. That changed and other venues are used as places of safety instead; joint service provision now routine Better for patients #wecops |
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@jqjasonkew
10 February 2021 22:23
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@WeCops #wecops we in Policing need to give space to and trust our partners in health to lead, design and build a range of interventions.. shared funding.. police are a valuable gateway, but not the answer to crime |
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@PeteA86
10 February 2021 22:24
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@WeCops #wecops Q3 good discussions here. But I still think we are missing the "bigger" picture. VRU's, MOSOVO or teams looking at drugs/sex workers im area are still targeting individuals or a group such as an OCG. What about entire communities? Towns, streets, postal areas. |
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@InsJimJones
10 February 2021 22:26
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@WeCops Many examples. 60yr old female shoplifter with a history of offending on & off for decades, alway linked to a mental health episode. Referred to women’s centre instead of charge against what the rules say. Got her to recognise her mental health. Hasn’t offended since. #wecops |
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@BurcuBorysik
10 February 2021 22:26
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RT @jqjasonkew: @WeCops #wecops we in Policing need to give space to and trust our partners in health to lead, design and build a range of… |
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@PC717Whitehead
10 February 2021 22:27
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@PeteA86 @WeCops There are times when enforcement is the only option. Conditional cautions are a fantastic tool for referral if someone won’t engage voluntarily but often the decision is made for them, rather than having that awkward conversation before they get to that stage #WeCops Q2 |
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@PeteA86
10 February 2021 22:27
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@WeCops #wecops what can we do to improve the environment of an entire town or a community. PHA is about knowing problems can be prevented as well as cured. |
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@snwbrds1
10 February 2021 22:27
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RT @jqjasonkew: #wecops Heroin assisted treatment isn't a silver bullet on its own, but it's probably THE only way to dramatically reduce t… |
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@Karrasamelia5
10 February 2021 22:28
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RT @SuptLeeBerryWYP: #WeCops ?? |
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@Karrasamelia5
10 February 2021 22:28
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RT @GorillaoJustice: This is how we work @jqjasonkew @WeCops #publichealthapproach #wecops ?? |
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