#WeCops - Wednesday 26th January 2022 9pm (GMT Standard Time) Neighbourhood Police Week of Action

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Nearly six years on after comments made within a PEEL inspection report by Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary report peel-police-effectiveness-2016.pdf (justiceinspectorates.gov.uk) which raised concerns that ‘local policing’ had been eroded with many forces failing to redefine neighbourhood policing (NP) in the context of reduced budgets and changing demand,  this area of operational policing delivery has witnessed a period of rejuvenation across the UK. Under the watchful eye of the former NPCC Lead NP Chief Constable Gavin Stephens, the introduction of the 2018 College of Policing national neighbourhood policing guidelines has encouraged NP teams to speak a ‘common operational language’ as they work to deliver effective outcomes for communities utilising the seven pillars of guidance detailed within the guidelines.

 

Forces have subsequently completed specific neighbourhood police peer review inspections to assess how well they have implemented the neighbourhood guidelines whilst providing an opportunity to reflect and share good practice across the country. The findings from this process clearly shows that our NP teams are taking great steps forward delivering targeted activity, solving problems and effectively engaging with their local communities. However, with an ever-increasing demand placed on police and with crime types becoming more complex, how can we effectively show the difference that our neighbourhood police teams are making within their communities? Evidence shows that NP teams are adopting a problem-solving approach to get to the root cause of many of the challenges they face - but this can take time. How therefore can neighbourhood police teams nationally effectively measure what they do in a way that can secure future investment in terms of capacity and capability, making them indispensable within the wider policing context?

 

With just under 10,000 Police Community Support Officers (PCSO) providing the visible, accessible and approachable unformed presence of neighbourhood policing, their role is essential for the future of NP. Since their inception in 2002, the PCSO role is ever evolving with more and more responsibility given to individuals. It is so important that PCSOs receive ongoing support, guidance and training to ensure their welfare, needs and concerns are cared for. With this in mind some forces have developed a PCSO supervisory position to support teams and individuals who at times can feel removed and isolated in their role. Should this role be considered more carefully nationally as a means of providing a career structure within the police staff hierarchy?

Join the current NPCC Neighbourhood Police Lead Deputy Chief Constable Claire Parmenter (Dyfed Powys Police), her outgoing Staff Officer Chief Inspector Mark McSweeney and new Staff Officer Inspector Jenna Jones online from 21:00hrs to consider these discussion points! 

Deputy Chief Constable Claire Parmenter

Claire holds a BA (hons) degree in Education having studied at Cardiff.

Claire joined Dyfed-Powys Police in 1993, and has served in a variety of uniform roles across the Dyfed-Powys area. Her career to date has included a national role supporting the implementation of neighbourhood policing across the UK, time as the Joint Emergency Services Lead for Wales supporting resilience across the four Welsh forces, Welsh Fire and Rescue Services and the Welsh Ambulance Service Trust, and a secondment to the local authority developing the joint community strategy.   Claire has led a number of change programmes within force and has also worked in Avon and Somerset Constabulary on secondment. Claire has been awarded the Stonewall Workplace Champion award for her work supporting diversity across Wales. She is an accredited strategic firearms and gold public order commander.  Claire was appointed as Temporary Assistant Chief Constable in 2017 and promoted to Deputy Chief Constable in August 2019. Between February 2021 – December 2021,  Claire was appointed Temporary Chief Constable.

 

Claire is the Welsh Chief Officer lead for both Police Community Support Officers (PCSOs) and School Community Police Officers (SCPOs). She is the NPCC Portfolio Lead for Neighbourhood Policing.

 

Chief Inspector Mark McSweeney

NPCC Neighbourhood Policing Staff Officer

Born and bred in London, Mark successfully completed his BA (Hons) Geography and Environmental Science degree (Qualified Teacher Status) at Brunel University.  After teaching for four years, Mark began his policing career with the Metropolitan Police Service in 2000. He brings a wealth of frontline neighbourhood policing experience having served as a Safer Neighbourhood Sergeant in London before transferring to his current force Dyfed-Powys Police. Here he continued to develop his neighbourhood practitioner skills again as a Sgt, and then upon promotion to Inspector in Pembrokeshire. In 2019 as Chief Inspector he led his force through a successful neighbourhood police change programme before seizing the opportunity to support DCC Parmenter as her NPCC Neighbourhood Police Staff Officer. Mark will soon begin a secondment to Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary and Fire & Rescue Services as the Assistant Portfolio Director - Prevention Lead.

Inspector Jenna Jones

Jenna has served 20 years with Dyfed Powys police starting her career in 2002 at the age of 19. She has served all her service to date in Powys serving the communities across the division as a response Police officer and in 2007 joining the Neighbourhood Policing Team. Jenna has spent 14 years in Neighbourhood Policing gaining a wealth of operational knowledge both as a PC and in 2017 becoming a NPT Sergeant. Jenna lead the way operationally during the restructure of Neighbourhood policing in Dyfed Powys Police showing the impact a well structured NPT team could have on a division. Jenna went on to successfully complete her Inspector promotion in 2021 and has recently spent 6 months as the Inspector in OP Talla directing the force through the COVID-19 pandemic. Jenna will now be taking on the role of NPCC Neighbourhood Policing Staff Officer to DCC Parmenter.





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@WeCops
26 January 2022 21:00
Q1. With @CollegeofPolice neighbourhood police guidelines adopted and firmly embedded nationally, are neighbourhood teams now equipped to face the increasing demand and ever-changing internal and external challenges of modern policing? Please add #WeCops in all your replies! https://t.co/cMhkvY16ik
@ClaireParmenter
26 January 2022 21:03
RT @WeCops: Good evening and welcome to this evenings #WeCops chat on Neighbourhood Policing with guest hosts @ClaireParmenter @Mark_McSwee…
@SussexInspCC238
26 January 2022 21:04
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice Can I use an optimist No? We are starting to see reinvestment across the country in Neighborhoods but the decade of austerity set us back a generation. Real long term front line neighborhood partnership commitment is required. We are at the very beginning #wecops
@WecopsCaroline
26 January 2022 21:04
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice I’m not sure they are in terms of communicating with the widest demographic, we are still far from reaching those who don’t believe in us… #WeCops
@SussexInspCC238
26 January 2022 21:05
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice Can I use an optimistic No? We are starting to see reinvestment across the country in Neighborhoods but the decade of austerity set us back a generation. Real long term front line neighborhood partnership commitment is required. We are at the very beginning #WeCops
@NHPSuper
26 January 2022 21:06
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice I think that depends on how forces train and prepare them. Developing officers, staff and volunteers is the key to effective delivery, but recruiting people who want to be neighbourhoods specialists is also extremely important #wecops
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 21:06
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice No I’m afraid…take off the amount of years in decline of NP and that’s how long it’ll take to catch up again and then restore parity #wecops
@patrigby2
26 January 2022 21:07
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice #WeCops I have always said if neighbourhood policing is done properly the demand on response would be greatly reduced but neighbourhood is always the first to suffer cutbacks
@ktbg1
26 January 2022 21:07
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice I see more & more of my neighbourhood teams working on safeguarding & child criminal exploitation. Their work is much more complex then I think most imagine to be. Demand on them really is significant #wecops
@BTPRams
26 January 2022 21:07
@WeCops @PFEW_HQ @CollegeofPolice #WeCops the national guidelines have given us principles to work towards more work to do internally to ensure they are equipped. We are positioning our focus now on all officers carrying out NPT principles unless they are attending a call to service. Definitely more work to do
@ClaireParmenter
26 January 2022 21:08
@WecopsCaroline @WeCops @CollegeofPolice Hi Caroline yes more to do to highlight the great work of NP teams the week of action showed the difference teams are making #WeCops
@SussexInspCC238
26 January 2022 21:08
@patrigby2 @WeCops @CollegeofPolice Get the right neighbourhood teams running and longer term demand on response and subsequently CID is lessened. Appreciate its a chicken or egg scenario though. #wecops
@Mark_McSweeney2
26 January 2022 21:09
@SussexInspCC238 @WeCops @CollegeofPolice Agree! Lots of forces are rebuilding at the moment so it will take time! It is then about proving the power of what NP can achieve when given the time & space to deliver! #WeCops
@dadwithahat1
26 January 2022 21:09
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice While they may be adopted &imbedded,they take time to impact and deliver. Neighbourhood is the slow burn of policing. It’s also not one size or model fits all or approach and even on some geographic areas there could be multiple neighbourhood approaches needed. So. Dunno! #wecops
@CopWellbeing
26 January 2022 21:09
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice #WeCops another no I'm afraid. You can pump money and people into SNT's but if they're then the first teams that get called upon to Police events/protests out of their locality that service becomes weakened. Especially when it's weeks at a time.
@PC_Angry
26 January 2022 21:09
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice Lol! Absolutely not! It’s an omnishambles here! Stations and bases shut - SNTs no longer in their actual neighbourhoods. #WeCops
@BTPRams
26 January 2022 21:09
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice #WeCops the NPT week of action allowed us to showcase our NPT work nationally. Hopefully it will be repeated but is it worth a national hashtag for npt so we can capture activity all year round and provide consistency across all forces
@NHPSuper
26 January 2022 21:10
@Jennajo69937075 @WeCops @CollegeofPolice We were fortunate that we continued to invest in NHP during austerity, so start (restart?) from a good baseline. From the peer reviews it’s obvious this wasn’t the case everywhere #WeCops
@SuptPaulFrench
26 January 2022 21:10
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice #WeCops yes definitely, but forces need to have that clear commitment to supporting dedicated and specialist #NeighbourhoodPolicing function.
@PC_M999
26 January 2022 21:10
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice I was a NBO, I’d say no, it depends what people want from Neighbourhood teams. We can either be on top of the burglar & SAC offenders causing disruption etc. or dealing with neighbours disputes, or youths causing. All important but teams are small, we can’t do both. #WeCops
@ClaireParmenter
26 January 2022 21:11
@BTPRams @WeCops @CollegeofPolice Good suggestion David ???? #WeCops
@SuptPaulFrench
26 January 2022 21:11
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice #WeCops and equally ensuring those specialists #NeighbourhoodPolicing colleagues have the #CPD to tackle such issues, #ProblemSolving #POP and provide space to be able to do this.
@Jennajo69937075
26 January 2022 21:11
@ktbg1 @WeCops @CollegeofPolice The work of NPT teams is far more complex than people realise. Significant emphasis around vulnerability and long term problem solving #weCops
@JulietBravo41
26 January 2022 21:12
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice #wecops q1 NO ??
@Mark_McSweeney2
26 January 2022 21:12
@mark74brown @WeCops @CollegeofPolice #WeCops - agree Mark. Our PCSOs have kept us going - albeit they have reduced in numbers from 16000 in 2010 to just under 10000. It’s important to sell the power of NP to Chief Officers to continue to keep investment going…
@DanielRIvey
26 January 2022 21:13
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice Neighbourhood teams will only meet challenges if they reflect the communities they serve, particularly in our most diverse cities. If we don’t consider this Q in parallel with recruitment ambitions under the race & inclusion strategy, we won’t make much progress #WeCops
@snash6414
26 January 2022 21:13
@PC_M999 @WeCops @CollegeofPolice I agree with this. The demand on NH teams is huge and so varied. What can seem relatively low level can take a great deal of time and resource to combat. We have such a huge remit and it is often our resources that are abstracted first to assist other teams / areas #WeCops
@SussexInspCC238
26 January 2022 21:14
@BTPRams @WeCops @CollegeofPolice Not to necessarily be adopted, but as a neighbourhoods officer and fresh to twitter #beatbobbies was my go to. I'm a fan of a neighborhoods #hashtag #wecops
@NHPSuper
26 January 2022 21:14
@CopWellbeing @WeCops @CollegeofPolice Can’t disagree - need robust abstraction policies to protect the NHP service #WeCops
@WeCops
26 January 2022 21:15
Q2. How do (or should!) neighbourhood police teams effectively measure the outcomes they strive to achieve with their communities? #WeCops https://t.co/3e8BhCgpIt
@ClaireParmenter
26 January 2022 21:15
@CopWellbeing @WeCops @CollegeofPolice Agree - measuring abstractions is important to gauge demand particularly with competing and complex changes in crime #WeCops
@WeCops
26 January 2022 21:15
RT @BTPRams: @WeCops @CollegeofPolice #WeCops the NPT week of action allowed us to showcase our NPT work nationally. Hopefully it will be r…
@Jennajo69937075
26 January 2022 21:15
@t_supt @WeCops @CollegeofPolice #wecops we in DPP have continued with the support of our NPT but I agree not everywhere has.
@SuptPaulFrench
26 January 2022 21:15
@Jennajo69937075 @WeCops @ktbg1 @CollegeofPolice #WeCops This is very true. And a key part is supporting other areas of policing to understand the nature of #NeighbourhoodPolicing, cross pollination and attachments vital to support this mutual understanding and appreciation.
@snash6414
26 January 2022 21:16
@ktbg1 @WeCops @CollegeofPolice The CCE role is a huge job in itself and deserves its own team as the demand and risk is so high. This is kind of what we have done on our LPA to ensure it gets the focus it needs, but the flip side of this is you have less NH officers out in the community. #WeCops
@BTPRams
26 January 2022 21:17
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice #WeCops we have a strong NPCC NPT lead and team with a clear set of principles that we can all work towards with national forums to share best practice, I think our own force leadership teams are listening that NPT approach can reduce crime and demand with problem solving.
@gmjackgm
26 January 2022 21:17
@Mark_McSweeney2 @mark74brown @WeCops @CollegeofPolice I'd be interested to hear more from those forces that moved away from large(er) PCSO resource in nhds - e.g. Norfolk. How does NP fare in the current era with increasing younger PCs, lower ratio/no PCSOs? Are the challenges different? #WeCops
@Mark_McSweeney2
26 January 2022 21:17
@DanielRIvey @WeCops @CollegeofPolice Agree! Effective NP delivers legitimacy in communities! NP as a portfolio is playing a significant part in the police plan of action for race & inclusivity. #WeCops
@WildBill_Will
26 January 2022 21:18
@DanielRIvey @WeCops @CollegeofPolice 2/2 CRIS reports, MH assessments, neighbour disputes and safeguarding. Asking those two officers to then pick up making a change in the community on top of that is tough to say the least. PCSO’s help somewhat but risk needs a PC. #WeCops
@JulietBravo41
26 January 2022 21:19
@ktbg1 @WeCops @CollegeofPolice #wecops q1 and there is the problem .. the work often doesn't provide short term tangible results .. many don't get it .. it takes time just to gain confidence which is a big part of it
@SuptPaulFrench
26 January 2022 21:19
@WeCops #WeCops Definitely a space for this. Tangible different made, who is better off, who is safer, less vulnerable, not just overall crime and incidents but specifically those communities and people we are supporting, less harm, repeat victimisation, reducing harm scores.
@BTPRams
26 January 2022 21:19
@WeCops #WeCops this was a debate internally about how we measure. Dilemma is having a balance between measuring outcomes and not providing our teams with targets which will put them off. Can good NPT principles be measures without making teams disengaged
@WecopsCaroline
26 January 2022 21:19
@WeCops I was listening to something today that reminded me that measures are useless without the analysis - we have had a huge loss of these posts within policing - I wonder if investment here is afoot? @OwenTheAnalyst ran a precious chat for us! #WeCops
@SussexInspCC238
26 January 2022 21:20
@WeCops For me this is measured in years. It's year on year decline in your typical burglary, ASB reduction etc ... but also confidence in policing from the local communities that could be recorded. This helps legitimise policing and ensure we remain relevant and fit for purpose #wecops
@PCSO_69467
26 January 2022 21:20
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice Absolutely not Officers frequently abstracted away from their main duties to cover other roles. Unfortunately neighbourhood policing is a slow burn & very really does a “community problem” get solved in a few day of proactive policing. Staff turnover in NPT is shocking #WeCops
@ClaireParmenter
26 January 2022 21:21
@SuptPaulFrench @WeCops I agree Paul - really excited to see what our national working group on performance for NP will bring forward #WeCops
@SuptPaulFrench
26 January 2022 21:21
@WeCops #WeCops output v outcomes.. what are we doing (important),how well is it being done (equally as important), what tangible difference have we made (this is the key). #OutcomeBasedAccountability #OBA
@Mark_McSweeney2
26 January 2022 21:22
@dadwithahat1 @WeCops @CollegeofPolice Hugely agree with the slow burn aspect of NP! In a performance world of ‘what are you delivering now’ we might not be able to show that for sometime! It’s about managing internal & external expectations & then celebrating success. #WeCops
@BTPRams
26 January 2022 21:22
@SussexInspCC238 @WeCops #WeCops completely agree problem is performance matrix just deters officers and feel like it's back to targets. For me it has to be about engagement and trust & confidence but how to measure is another story
@Jennajo69937075
26 January 2022 21:22
@WecopsCaroline @WeCops @OwenTheAnalyst #wecops investment in analysts is needed and would really boost the platform for NPT, professionalising the teams
@ChiefInsp3774
26 January 2022 21:22
@WeCops A mix of qualitative and quantitate data to evaluate the effectiveness of police/partner Problem Solving is one way we measure in @swpolice eg demand reduction and perception (obtaining the views of those impacted) #WeCops
@Derek_Flint1
26 January 2022 21:22
@WeCops Can this ever be anything other than qualitative? #WeCops
@tlc_duffy
26 January 2022 21:22
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice I don’t think so. People don’t realise some of the complex cases SNTs are dealing with (because of “remits”) as well as all the other duties (some of which were the job of an Inspector but has now tumbled down), abstractions, community events and usual SNT business. #WeCops
@SuptPaulFrench
26 January 2022 21:23
@ClaireParmenter @WeCops #WeCops Totally agree Ma'am and lots of interest and so much great work in this space already by so many forces and #NeighbourhoodPolicing colleagues. ??
@WecopsCaroline
26 January 2022 21:23
@PCSO_69467 @WeCops @CollegeofPolice I really think long term posts are key to NHPolicing - relationships are so important #WeCops
@snash6414
26 January 2022 21:23
@WeCops Not everything we do is measurable in terms of figures / performance. That hard to reach community member having confidence to report something to us because they’ve built a rapport with a NH PC / PCSO. The guy who won’t normally trust police sat having a chat willingly…#WeCops
@JulietBravo41
26 January 2022 21:24
@WeCops #wecops q2 tricky .. .. shouldn't be arrests /warrants numbers .. public confidence/engagement a biggie but difficult to measure .. Intel reports also really good indication that teams know what's going on ..
@snash6414
26 January 2022 21:24
@WeCops This to me is when NH teams are succeeding. Building trust and public confidence. It may not always look good on the ‘stats’ but it is what matters #WeCops
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 21:24
@SuptPaulFrench @WeCops Totally agree with this…in Dorset a few years back we had a repeat victim/offender/location profile for each NPT on the BCU’s…identifying but also having action plans triggered on next incident…it’s a lot of work but worthwhile doing it…’know your customers’ #wecops
@DanielRIvey
26 January 2022 21:24
@WeCops Locally based on key measures - trust & confidence outcomes - public attitude survey measures - without a mountain of reporting bureaucracy for officers. The answers already here demonstrate we don’t have consistency, and I suspect HMG will soon require it - bang 4 buck #WeCops
@ClaireParmenter
26 January 2022 21:24
@WeCops I believe an effective framework will help forces to highlight progress and to justify continued investment in NP #WeCops
@Mark_McSweeney2
26 January 2022 21:24
@PCSO_69467 @WeCops @CollegeofPolice Some forces have a tenure policy with their NP Cops - minimum of two / three years in post! A must for continuity in role - better for communities #WeCops
@NHPSuper
26 January 2022 21:25
@WeCops By the measuring of effectiveness and not the volume of doing “stuff”! Key for communities is closing the feedback loop and improving public confidence. Internally, effective problem management and all that underpins it #WeCops
@SuptPaulFrench
26 January 2022 21:25
@WeCops #WeCops Public Trust and Confidence, Community feedback too. What are people telling us about how they feel, the issues they experience and how confident they are. Not just asking this once,but ongoing 2 way conversations, track progress, improvement and focus challenges.
@CopWellbeing
26 January 2022 21:25
@WeCops Some things aren't measurable, whenever a new PCSO started on Teams I was Sgt for I always pointed out to them that some of their most important work couldn't be measured. Elderly/vulnerable looking out their window and seeing someone in uniform is hugely reassuring. #WeCops
@WecopsCaroline
26 January 2022 21:25
@Jennajo69937075 @WeCops @OwenTheAnalyst ?? There is a wider picture. I read a brilliant case study on how a neighbourhood team helped bring to justice a terrorist organisation- through local links, communication and trust. NHPolicing should not be underestimated and shouldn’t be a ‘nice to have’ #WeCops
@PCWibble
26 January 2022 21:25
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice No. The CoP may be corporately embedded but practically it's distant non-entity. NH has been stripped of all resources, musical chairs of officers looking for promotion and is constantly reorganised every 18 months #wecops
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 21:26
@WecopsCaroline @WeCops @OwenTheAnalyst Always great to have analysts but what’s to stop those on NPT’s doing it (if time allows)…I used to do our stats monthly and then release them to local press so the community could see what was being done & what the issues were #wecops
@snash6414
26 January 2022 21:26
@JulietBravo41 @WeCops I agree with this. I get so frustrated when my team ‘know’ stuff and it’s not put in as intel. As I told my PCSO’s this week - they are literally the eyes and the ears. That one bit of intel could be the golden nugget needed elsewhere #WeCops
@gmjackgm
26 January 2022 21:26
@Jennajo69937075 @WecopsCaroline @WeCops @OwenTheAnalyst In better times, we could hope that PCCs and even the Home Office could take some responsibility here. Ongoing performance measures are one thing, but NP is really missing some decent evaluation studies, as far as I can tell. #wecops
@daimogssoapbox
26 January 2022 21:26
Good question Q1 @WeCops #wecops has anybody done any #evaluation #impact #assessments of NPTs across Wales & England what are @HMICFRS reports saying? Found this book https://oxford.universitypressscholarship.com/view/10.1093/oso/9780198783213.001.0001/oso-9780198783213 https://twitter.com/WeCops/status/1486443836293345282
@Jennajo69937075
26 January 2022 21:26
@BTPRams @SussexInspCC238 @WeCops That's the million dollar question this is the most important part of policing but how do we measure this #WeCops
@ClaireParmenter
26 January 2022 21:27
@snash6414 @WeCops I agree Sarah challenging to capture to huge impact that NP teams have on communities and individuals #WeCops
@PCWibble
26 January 2022 21:27
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice Everything is a priority for NH and therefore nothing is a priority. The role demands consistently, however the healthy churn is the main reasons NH is effectively useless as a stand alone department #wecops
@PCSO_69467
26 January 2022 21:27
@WecopsCaroline @WeCops @CollegeofPolice It sure is. It’s a big commitment to make in a Policing career, but as a #PCSO I see the effect it does have on the teams & the community. It’s hard for a community when they don’t know who their Insp, Sgt, NBO, PCSOs are as it changes every 3-12mths #WeCops
@Mark_McSweeney2
26 January 2022 21:27
@HenryBrookes87 @WeCops @CollegeofPolice Depends on the context & what communities need? Lots of NP teams focus on longer term problem solving but they then also have the capability to respond to emerging crime types such as county lines. It is tricky to get it right - especially with limited resources. #WeCops
@ChiefInsp3774
26 January 2022 21:27
@WeCops A mix of quantitative (tangible) data and qualitative data is one measure in @swpolice for community problem solving. Evaluating the impact of police & partner interventions and involving those impacted in the process is so important. Targets don’t matter to communities #WeCops
@WecopsCaroline
26 January 2022 21:28
@mark74brown @WeCops @OwenTheAnalyst Stats is one thing, analysis is quite another. I’m not saying we can’t do it, but it’s time away from the streets (on top of case files etc etc!) #WeCops
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 21:28
@BTPRams @WeCops Avoid targets if possible…they skew things and can also provide ‘false priorities’ that the public have no say in or have a choice to debate…know your customer and let them decide within reason what is and isn’t the issues/problems as a community #wecops
@snash6414
26 January 2022 21:28
@jonnyknoxvile @WeCops I agreed with your top 3 - less so the age ones! I don’t think it’s age specific but you do need the right people in the role - willing to be out there and wanting to make a difference. Not just seeing it as an easy ride / way to escape shift #WeCops
@ktbg1
26 January 2022 21:29
@Jennajo69937075 @WecopsCaroline @WeCops @OwenTheAnalyst In @ThamesVP we have just invested in problem solving analysts in each police area for this reason. Looking forward to seeing what they will achieve #wecops
@RichyGeorge81
26 January 2022 21:29
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice #wecops - 1 / 2 having had the benefit of being a beat manager at the inception of Neighbourhood Policing - I feel very grateful that there was the drive and resources to make a positive impact - the righ people - capable and motivated can do great things
@SuptPaulFrench
26 January 2022 21:29
@Jennajo69937075 @WecopsCaroline @WeCops @OwenTheAnalyst #WeCops equally investment in digital innovation to support #NeighbourhoodPolicing colleagues to be able to track and test their responses against their plans and establish progress, success! Many forces investing in #BusinessIntelligence tools #SelfService #Data
@AllotmentCop
26 January 2022 21:29
@WeCops I don't think there is one set way of measuring NPT's as every community has different demands and needs. What one community might see as a great performing team, another might not. #WeCops
@dadwithahat1
26 January 2022 21:29
@WeCops Not sure .. however I can tell you how they should not define their success and that’s by measures based around activity. Number of arrests or stops or warrants executed. They need to be focused much more on end goals. Community confidence, overall criminality Etc. #WeCops
@WeCops
26 January 2022 21:30
Q3. With just under 10,000 Police Community Support Officers providing the lifeblood of neighbourhood policing delivery, how can they as a body of staff be better supported in their role? Please remember the hashtag in all you responses #WeCops https://t.co/XGulHt1P1T
@GParrottFedRep
26 January 2022 21:30
@WeCops Sadly NPT/SNT can become a platform of change due to some up the chain being on the promotion trail. The troops on the ground can be ignored . The bureaucracy involved in problem solving can certainly get in the way of problem solving #WeCops
@Jennajo69937075
26 January 2022 21:30
@JulietBravo41 @WeCops #wecops we can definitely measure Intel logs but the flip side is we end up with a numbers game. Intel with outcomes but again how do we measure?
@Derek_Flint1
26 January 2022 21:30
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice No. The erosion is colossal. I now live in the town I Policed as a prob. 30 yrs ago. Supt, CI, 3 insp, 12 sgts, 35 PC’s - to two PCSO. This is the front line. This is where everything starts, and legitimacy is won and lost. #WeCops
@ktbg1
26 January 2022 21:31
@ClaireParmenter @WeCops Difficult to measure prevention though. What NH policing deters or prevents through engagement & community policing is tricky to measure! #wecops
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 21:31
@WecopsCaroline @WeCops @OwenTheAnalyst Fair point ??…but depends who’s doing that…some PCSO’s are capable of doing this so the warranted officers aren’t sidetracked…supervisor oversight with the skippers & inspectors…that’s how the teams I was on did it #wecops
@AllotmentCop
26 January 2022 21:31
@snash6414 @JulietBravo41 @WeCops This is my biggest irritation in the job. The huge amounts of Intel held by officers but then never shared with others #WeCops
@_Danny__S
26 January 2022 21:31
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice I’m not NPT and I have no idea that there is National NPT guidelines. How can I answer that if I didn’t know. There might be a training need to make everyone aware of what they do and can do to offer support and an outlet to colleagues and teams #WeCops
@CopWellbeing
26 January 2022 21:32
@WeCops In recent years they've picked up too much, almost like investigation units now when their core role should be high vis patrols. This goes hand in hand with my answer to Q1 re abstractions of the PC's, who then pass CCTV enquiries to PCSO's, taking them off the street. #WeCops
@PCWibble
26 January 2022 21:32
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice Scrolling through the replies I can see those at the coal face answering 'no' and those with pips answering 'yes'. The first step to recovery is to admit failure and start again #wecops
@dadwithahat1
26 January 2022 21:33
@WeCops By empowerment to do what they think is best. By decent effective and relevant training that they want and need as identified by them and their peers. #WeCops
@JulietBravo41
26 January 2022 21:34
@Jennajo69937075 @WeCops Yep .. used to drive me mad .. reports on to tick the box .. pretty impossible to measure outcomes on Intel.. might be smallest part of jigsaw Supervisors need to monitor quality #wecops
@Jennajo69937075
26 January 2022 21:34
@PcGavinParrott @WeCops #wecops what about supervisory roles? Training and investment, value their role
@Kaurbethechange
26 January 2022 21:34
@WeCops When officers are busy filling out surveys they are not spending time wisely to engage and deliver key policing concerns. Bobby on the beat days we never had surveys; plus if there is no follow up what’s the point? #WeCops
@BriW74
26 January 2022 21:35
@WeCops Home Office forces should follow the lead of British Transport Police and issue their PCSOs with handcuffs #WeCops
@realjonnygriff
26 January 2022 21:35
@WeCops Some of the hardest working officers out there and committed to their communities. Creating PCSO supervisors will enhance the role, provide much needed aspiration and ensure expertise remains in NP #wecops
@_Danny__S
26 January 2022 21:35
@WeCops We shouldn’t Police by statistics. Maybe highlight cases of complexity to show a result or options considered. Be it single dept support (in house) or cross dept support or multi-agency. There should be learning cause we can’t be right all the time. #WeCops
@DanielRIvey
26 January 2022 21:35
@WeCops Many amazing, dedicated PCSO’s with significant long term knowledge of communities. They need dedicated accreditation pathways, CPD opportunities and role developed in a similar way to Advanced Nurse Practitioners (with associated pay increase) #WeCops
@PCRotherham
26 January 2022 21:35
@WeCops I think for this one we should look to Sir Robert Peel for inspiration; To recognise always that the test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, and not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with them. #WeCops
@PCWibble
26 January 2022 21:35
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice There is also absolutely no bespoke training offered for NH officers. There is no centralised command structure of NH and there is no consistency due to the area commander's differring visions. Most priorities resources for shift and CID #WeCops
@ChiefInsp3774
26 January 2022 21:35
@WeCops Recognition and reward (NP week really demonstrated their value to policing.) Development - opportunities to specialise. Encouraged to innovate #WeCops
@ktbg1
26 January 2022 21:36
@WeCops #wecops We had an excellent article in the most recent @CollegeofPolice #goingequipped publication about @ASPolice PCSO Supervisor role, created to support NH policing. You can read it here: https://assets.college.police.uk/s3fs-public/2021-11/Going-equipped-issue-3.pdf
@SuptPaulFrench
26 January 2022 21:36
@WeCops #WeCops Similarly in response to Q1, training skills and ongoing development #CPD to be those specialist dedicated #NeighbourhoodPolicing professionals, equally, protection from routine abstractions. #PCSO role highly effective & a key cornerstone of local #NeighbourhoodPolicing
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:36
...arrives screeching in sideways and late as usual! apologies - I will get on with the hashtag sweeping now... #WeCops
@Mark_McSweeney2
26 January 2022 21:36
@Derek_Flint1 @WeCops Agree but need some outputs to get to the outcomes… if that makes sense Derek! #WeCops
@NHPSuper
26 January 2022 21:36
@WeCops I’m afraid I still too often see PCSOs viewed as a taskable resource for other teams, rather than as NHP specialists in their own right. Their value is obvious to anyone who spends time in NHP, so there needs to be better protection for them #WeCops
@ClaireParmenter
26 January 2022 21:36
@cozmo116 @WeCops We have set up a national PCSO practitioner group to hear their voices and share great practice #WeCops
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 21:36
@WeCops A national standards, powers, training, kit, shift patterns etc instead of 43 different ways of doing it…as a PCSO in one force we had a certain way but in other forces they were being given things like handcuffs and all sorts…a real pick & mix which is not good #wecops
@Kaurbethechange
26 January 2022 21:36
@WeCops Data exists on various platforms be it centrally, locally and with MOPAC do we need more data or simply just go out and talk to the public and be visible, because this is what’s important to the public @WeCops #wecops
@WecopsCaroline
26 January 2022 21:36
@ChiefInsp3774 @WeCops They are already specialists and specialising!! #Wecops ??
@PCWibble
26 January 2022 21:37
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice It's a false economy, if you fund, resource and train your NH, they deal with high demand preventing shift and CID ever needing to attend in the first place. Bring back data analysists for NH, prioritise the top 10 and smash them with ASB legislation #wecops
@SuptPaulFrench
26 January 2022 21:37
@ClaireParmenter @cozmo116 @WeCops #WeCops Lots of positive feedback on the practitioner working groups.
@Derek_Flint1
26 January 2022 21:37
@WeCops They need tthe top cover of warranted constables to be able to offer a whole response, which can flex and be agile within a community. The teams need resourcing, resilience and resolution to do it. #WeCops
@Jennajo69937075
26 January 2022 21:37
@CopWellbeing @WeCops #wecops I think this comes down to strong leadership in NPT sgts, setting parameters around their teams roles. There are electronic means to assist forces with CCTV capturing
@ClaireParmenter
26 January 2022 21:37
@Derek_Flint1 @WeCops Agree we are closely linked with colleagues leading public health approaches #WeCops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:38
#WeCops https://twitter.com/jonnyknoxvile/status/1486450257898754048
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 21:38
@ktbg1 @WeCops @CollegeofPolice @ASPolice This should have been done years ago…it’s an excellent idea and one that should go national…it doesn’t mean complete independence from warranted colleagues but helps with freeing up PC’s & Sgts from direct supervision #wecops
@Derek_Flint1
26 January 2022 21:38
@Mark_McSweeney2 @WeCops It can only ever be measured by the satisfaction of the public. #WeCops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:38
#WeCops https://twitter.com/WildBill_Will/status/1486448017368625152
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:38
#WeCops https://twitter.com/HLLists/status/1486448691699494914
@WeCops
26 January 2022 21:38
RT @ktbg1: @WeCops #wecops We had an excellent article in the most recent @CollegeofPolice #goingequipped publication about @ASPolice PCSO…
@NHPSuper
26 January 2022 21:38
@WeCops Have to say I’m not a fan of PCSO supervisor roles, but agree that there should be progression routes beyond joining as a warranted officer. Advanced practitioner maybe? #wecops
@PhilOnUNISONNEC
26 January 2022 21:39
@WeCops In some forces they are grossly undervalued and misunderstood. Abstracted to perform other functions, NP is then not delivered and Forces cut the role. They are specialists, protect and support them to perform their role and not just any task that needs performing. #WeCops
@Jessica08158027
26 January 2022 21:39
@AllotmentCop @WeCops Totally agree one size doesn’t fit all. #WeCops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:39
Q1 #WeCops https://twitter.com/cozmo116/status/1486448086423584773
@patrigby2
26 January 2022 21:39
@WeCops #WeCops sadly prevention is one of the hardest things to quantify
@JulietBravo41
26 January 2022 21:39
@badgercop @snash6414 @WeCops Shouldn't be target's.. but should be monitored .numbers and quality .#WeCops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:39
Q1 #WeCops https://twitter.com/ChiefInsp3774/status/1486446072230785033
@PCWibble
26 January 2022 21:39
@WeCops Several metrics should be completed. The KIN should be surveyed on visibility, trust, problem solving. This should be monitored quarterly. Every NSO and PCSO should know the KIN inside out #wecops
@SuptPaulFrench
26 January 2022 21:39
@ktbg1 @WeCops @CollegeofPolice @ASPolice #WeCops have this on my list for this week. Keen to read this
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:39
Q1 #WeCops https://twitter.com/HenryBrookes87/status/1486449112824389647
@PhilOnUNISONNEC
26 January 2022 21:40
@WeCops I do have to say though, from a national perspective it feels like we’re turning a corner. #WeCops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:40
Q1 #WeCops https://twitter.com/Mark_McSweeney2/status/1486451655927291904
@Derek_Flint1
26 January 2022 21:40
@ClaireParmenter @WeCops I sat in on an excellent College seminar yesterday. The problem is that we’ve been advocating this for effectively well over 2 decades. It just seems to wax and wane, and is so dependent on personal relationships. #WeCops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:40
Q1 #WeCops https://twitter.com/BTPRams/status/1486446684645339144
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:40
Q1 #WeCops https://twitter.com/jonnyknoxvile/status/1486447172904181765
@BTPRams
26 January 2022 21:40
@WeCops #WeCops pcsos are fundamental to our npt approach. Reward and recognition. Regular problem solving training and other training to enable them to perform their role. Opportunity for them to provide creativity and innovation they are the ones providing the visibility mostly
@Derek_Flint1
26 January 2022 21:41
These debates are great, but how do we turn them in to actual action? #WeCops
@PCWibble
26 January 2022 21:41
@WeCops Also high demand people and locations. Mark the osara models with the osara marking criteria, actually embed it in NH rather than window dressing. Don't measure NH by detections/arrests #wecops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:41
Q2 #WeCops https://twitter.com/jonnyknoxvile/status/1486448912512737280
@GParrottFedRep
26 January 2022 21:42
@Jennajo69937075 @WeCops Some supervisors/mangers from sgt up need mentoring and assistance. Developing helping . We need to get away from this obsession of “I need to change this for my promotion evidence” us at the bottom of the chain need continuity not constant needless change #WeCops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:42
Q2 #WeCops https://twitter.com/jonnyknoxvile/status/1486451750785662978
@CannockInsp
26 January 2022 21:42
@WeCops Reduction in repeat demand is a good measure. For example calls to a particular location re ASB that are problem solved and then reduced as a result. Reduced demand then frees up resources and #wecops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:42
Q2 #WeCops https://twitter.com/Derek_Flint1/status/1486450598497112066
@PhilOnUNISONNEC
26 January 2022 21:42
@therealnorseman @WeCops Agree with this ?? and have been saying it for years#. Gives the prospect of career progression without having to leave the role. #WeCops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:42
Q2 #WeCops https://twitter.com/ClaireParmenter/status/1486451126283255808
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:42
Q2 #WeCops https://twitter.com/Derek_Flint1/status/1486452595254304778
@WeCops
26 January 2022 21:43
#WeCops https://twitter.com/jojomci/status/1486454411710939136
@SuptPaulFrench
26 January 2022 21:43
@WeCops #WeCops I think another key part here is supportive leadership & empowerment of #PCSO colleagues, taking ownership, lead on problem solving and reward & recognition. Some of best #POP #ProblemSolving seen has come from #PCSO colleagues, their connectivity with local communities.
@Derek_Flint1
26 January 2022 21:43
@WeCops It is quite telling how poorly attended this debate is compared to other ones... #WeCops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:43
Q2 #WeCops https://twitter.com/therealnorseman/status/1486449601825722378
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:43
Q2 #WeCops https://twitter.com/badgercop/status/1486453792996474881
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:43
Q2 #WeCops https://twitter.com/HLLists/status/1486448971367202818
@WeCops
26 January 2022 21:45
Q4. As the ‘bedrock’ of policing – what does the future hold for neighbourhood police teams across the country? How can they evolve to provide an even better service to communities? #WeCops https://t.co/CniVWiw942
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:45
Q3 #WeCops https://twitter.com/cozmo116/status/1486452278336892946
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:45
Q3 #WeCops https://twitter.com/BTPRams/status/1486453526813360134
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 21:45
@Jennajo69937075 @ktbg1 @WeCops @CollegeofPolice @ASPolice It would if you have a supervisor for a number of teams on a BCU or division in smaller forces with small teams…doesn’t have to be just for large teams in my experience…I’ve worked under SNT skippers managing 6-8 teams with 25-30 PCSO’s #wecops
@KatieMagnet
26 January 2022 21:45
RT @Derek_Flint1: @WeCops It is quite telling how poorly attended this debate is compared to other ones... #WeCops
@Mark_McSweeney2
26 January 2022 21:46
@daimogssoapbox @WeCops Hi Dave! Some great points here! NP is a specialism and here in Wales we have recognised that and developed a NP training package based on the CoP 2018 Guidelines! Quality of supervisors is really important as well - you have to really believe in it! #WeCops
@BTPRams
26 January 2022 21:46
@WeCops #WeCops our pcsos within @BTP provide visible train patrols, community engagement and are valued by their local teams. They also are often the ones who make important links with our home office force colleagues to plan joint operations and discuss joint problem solving
@PCWibble
26 January 2022 21:46
@WeCops Back to shift work with response, we'll end up running along side them so we can publicly say we still have NH but in reality we're just another response team with a bigger remit. NH is a luxury we can't afford anymore. Forces also can't decide what they want them to do #wecops
@CopWellbeing
26 January 2022 21:47
@WeCops The decision by some Forces to come away from personal social media accounts is a massive loss in my opinion, official ones have a place. NPT's need support and appreciation for the vital role they play. A good NPT knows everything going on in an area. #WeCops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:47
@Derek_Flint1 @WeCops perhaps - but lots of factors affect #WeCops chats. Could be lack of confidence in airing views on Twitter, could be on us - we need to advertise and invite more, could be that people are busy with work and home, or could be that that there is something compelling on TV!
@WeCops
26 January 2022 21:47
Last Q of the evening! It’s flying by as ever!! #WeCops https://twitter.com/wecops/status/1486455153498615809
@PCWibble
26 January 2022 21:47
@WeCops So essentially back filling shift primarily, doing the community engagement on the side when the radio allows #wecops
@Derek_Flint1
26 January 2022 21:47
@PcGavinParrott @WeCops Because we have lost sight of the squirrel. There needs to be a complete reset in philosophy, back to where it matters. Resetting with NH at the forefront is truly getting upstream. #WeCops
@BTPRams
26 January 2022 21:47
@WeCops #WeCops within @BTP we have a clear strategy and governance structures now setup to put the focus on NPT. This should deliver increased change and focus on the front line. It also provides oversight from senior leaders to ensure the principles are being achieved.
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:48
@Derek_Flint1 @WeCops What we know (in the #WeCops) office is that the actually number of tweets or attendance, the likes or RT's and indeed the number of comments is no indication of the reach or impact of our debates. There will be many reading and watching but never lead a footprint.
@DrRoyBailey
26 January 2022 21:48
@WeCops PCSOs have become a substitute for community policing. They do a fantastic job but the cost of removing warranted officers from these roles is huge in terms of culture, intelligence and PR. #WeCops
@Maryoshaughnes8
26 January 2022 21:48
@WeCops #WeCops it’s been raised in previous questions but if the value of neighbourhood relationships is not recognised then the individuals doing this work will be equally undervalued
@amandahugsandx
26 January 2022 21:48
@WeCops Depends how they are valued (better shifts and bonus payments) If you place the most junior officers in role who leave after 6 months (as do SLT) there is no long term work done. Trust takes time and regular faces top to bottom, not people using it as a stepping stone #wecops
@PC_M999
26 January 2022 21:49
@WeCops #WeCops
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 21:49
@WeCops Have them based on local authority areas within the respective 43…covering electoral wards with ‘town centre’ teams in addition across every force so you can work with the LA’s in the multi-agency arena more effectively & have that as a national model with no exception #wecops
@Derek_Flint1
26 January 2022 21:49
@DannoReynolds @WeCops Well I stayed up late! 0530 start for me, en route to teach GMP at Salford! So I will bid you all goodnight. Keep safe, and keep on doing the same for others. #WeCops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:49
@Derek_Flint1 @WeCops Q3 #WeCops what is important is what comes after the debate and the blog is the tangible product that can feed into wider discussions, work programmes and platforms and to add a voice - a homogenised voice that may influence and nudge the needle on this matter.
@Jennajo69937075
26 January 2022 21:50
@BTPRams @WeCops @BTP #Wecops this sounds great and look forward to reading this
@DanielRIvey
26 January 2022 21:50
@WeCops I don’t think the model needs to evolve much. It’s the longevity of support they need - technological / training to tackle emerging risks - and most importantly consistent & sustained belief in the “bedrock” with investment fm NPCC & governments with passage of time #WeCops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:50
Q3 #WeCops https://twitter.com/jonnyknoxvile/status/1486453770800279557
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:50
Q3 #WeCops https://twitter.com/PcGavinParrott/status/1486451886769192968
@gmjackgm
26 January 2022 21:50
RT @ktbg1: @WeCops #wecops We had an excellent article in the most recent @CollegeofPolice #goingequipped publication about @ASPolice PCSO…
@BTPRams
26 January 2022 21:50
@WeCops #WeCops I think the future is looking better senior leaders understand that NPT done properly will reduce demand. We have PCSOs and now have PC collators at some locations to provide greater collaboration, and joint working to target problem solving.
@GParrottFedRep
26 January 2022 21:51
@WeCops Don’t over complicate community policing. Stop using it as a promotion evidence spring board. Cut the bureaucracy. Stop the abstractions. Experienced supervisors/inspectors. Invest in it. Problem solving done right contributes to cutting demand #WeCops
@PC_Angry
26 January 2022 21:51
@WeCops By not withdrawing from communities in the first place. Certainly in London what is happening is disastrous for Neighbourhood Policing #WeCops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:51
@WeCops Q3 #WeCops - practitioner working group?
@realjonnygriff
26 January 2022 21:52
@WeCops Co-locating with key partners, creating NP hubs that contain experts across public services #WeCops
@Mark_McSweeney2
26 January 2022 21:52
@PCWibble @WeCops Can see your point. It’s about dedicating resources in NP, protecting them with abstraction policy & introducing tenure. Need to prove what NP can deliver if given time & space to do so. That’s the only way to do it. Brave leadership & conviction to the cause. #WeCops
@SuptPaulFrench
26 January 2022 21:52
@CannockInsp @WeCops ?? totally agree Chris. #WeCops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:52
@Derek_Flint1 @WeCops Thank you for joining. Welcome back any time #WeCops
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 21:53
@PC_M999 @WeCops That has to stop…the whole ethos of NP is continuity of dedicated officers/PCSO’s in designated teams…it crept in after 2011/12 and has diluted things…understood why & how thanks to cuts but it needs rectifying or it will just die a death again and back to sq1! #wecops
@ChiefInsp3774
26 January 2022 21:53
@WeCops Forces need to invest and have a structure that supports NP so that the benefits can be realised - reduced demand, improved quality of life for communities, promote prevention ..”the test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder”someone once said #WeCops
@Mark_McSweeney2
26 January 2022 21:54
@jonnyknoxvile @WeCops Too true Jonny! Brave Leadership needed with good governance around NP. We need to show that NP works if it is given the chance to do so! #WeCops
@WeCops
26 January 2022 21:54
#WeCops ?? https://twitter.com/wecops/status/1486457386713985025
@mike200hope
26 January 2022 21:54
@WeCops #wecops A challenge is that until response policing is able to deal with its workload neighbourhood officers will be abstracted to respond to incidents if there are no other officers available. The irony is that effective neighbourhood policing can help reduce response demand
@gmjackgm
26 January 2022 21:55
@CannockInsp @WeCops The split makes sense in a way, though it could be a missed opportunity to pigeonhole warranted officers as focused on crime and not engagement. Some of the best engagement/problem solving I've seen has been from PCs and sergeants #WeCops
@BTPRams
26 January 2022 21:55
@WeCops #WeCops covid has allowed us and pushed us to a virtual position which some hard to reach communities like such as on teams to share their concerns. Virtual allows us to engage easier and to understand concerns. Keep focus on digital as well as traditional methods of engagement
@ClaireParmenter
26 January 2022 21:55
@PC_M999 @WeCops Lots of great practice going on across NP teams we will continue to highlight and share … feel free to share or raise issues with us #WeCops
@PCWibble
26 January 2022 21:55
@Mark_McSweeney2 @WeCops Brave leadership is rare when you have to get those 9s calls & pulic order commitments resources. NH work can't be dipped in & out of. Let's be honest, properly resourced NH is a pipe dream, its so small now its largerly ineffective so unable to prove capable of anything #wecops
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 21:55
@WeCops A return if necessary to ‘ring fenced’ funding to protect this vital part of policing…like it was a few years back…and forces like Norfolk should not be allowed to opt out with PCSO’s…mandate the PCC’s to have NP as a core part of their policing & crime plans #wecops
@_Danny__S
26 January 2022 21:56
@WeCops The biggest will have to be an equal commitment from agency partners. They need to evolve and share the same progression to the ever evolving communities. This includes different cultures etc but also all the new houses and schools being built everywhere #WeCops
@ClaireParmenter
26 January 2022 21:56
@CopWellbeing @WeCops I agree the response to the week of action was brilliant #WeCops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:57
@WeCops Is neighbourhood policing the 'bedrock' of policing? Based on what evidence and measures? Is it time for a complete reset and rethink of policing? Q4 #WeCops
@WecopsCaroline
26 January 2022 21:57
@Jasunity2317 @WeCops I was very interested in the SENSOR model which surveys a wide range of people to augment the stuff we get from people we meet and who come to us… #WeCops @ClaireParmenter - I think this was trialled in Wales, is it still used?
@Jennajo69937075
26 January 2022 21:57
@BTPRams @WeCops #Wecops strong leadership and commitment to NPT is key. A well structured NPT can have significant impacts on performance and call reduction to police and partners
@Kaurbethechange
26 January 2022 21:57
@WeCops Evolve??? the principles of core policing haven’t and shouldn’t change. Core policing is being present and available to reduce crime and the fear of crime. It’s simple let’s not complicate; but instead talk to communities and deliver ???? #WeCops
@Mark_McSweeney2
26 January 2022 21:57
@cozmo116 @WeCops We have just started a national PCSO practitioner group to look at points like this. We want our PCSOs to have a voice and shape their own future! #WeCops
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 21:57
@ChiefInsp3774 @WeCops NP week should be every week! ?? #wecops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 21:58
@WeCops What does the future hold for policing in the next 10 years? If we can answer that then we can start to plan for where neighbourhood policing will need to be. It will take 5-10 years to get it there! Q4 #WeCops
@amandahugsandx
26 January 2022 21:59
@Mark_McSweeney2 @WeCops It always did work, but ignorant and arrogant SLT devalued it for years and now reap what they’ve sowed. The hard earned public trust has gone. The police have never been less popular or less trusted. Too many ‘professional’ leaders and not enough cops at the top #wecops
@daimogssoapbox
26 January 2022 21:59
G8 question this Q4 @WeCops #wecops NPT is not a posh or nice 2 have add on it is the absolute grass roots of #policing 2 much emphasis on blues 2s so comms & education is vital at recruitment stage, more investment needed, use evidence base 4 insight eg patrol & crime reduction https://twitter.com/WeCops/status/1486455153498615809
@WeCops
26 January 2022 22:00
Thanks very much to our hosts @ClaireParmenter @Mark_McSweeney2 and @Jennajo69937075 for running tonight’s chat. Thanks to you all too for your Tweets. The info you have provided will be collated and blogged and will feed into the national NH work #WeCops https://t.co/ndote2NjZV
@KatieMagnet
26 January 2022 22:00
Would anyone actually make long term plans ? That would be against the current trend sadly. #wecops https://twitter.com/DannoReynolds/status/1486458503799656448
@Mark_McSweeney2
26 January 2022 22:00
@Jasunity2317 @WeCops Good point re the basics Jas! Just need to make sure we are always on the front foot! #WeCops
@WeCops
26 January 2022 22:01
#WeCops https://twitter.com/CannockInsp/status/1486459124334407685
@ClaireParmenter
26 January 2022 22:01
@WecopsCaroline @Jasunity2317 @WeCops We don’t use it .. we can check wider though Caroline #WeCops
@GParrottFedRep
26 January 2022 22:01
@DannoReynolds @WeCops Effective community policing is absolutely essential. What needs to be rethought and reset is what the police actually deal with. Good community policing can assist in cutting demand, increasing valuable intel and much more. (My view of course) #WeCops
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 22:01
@t_supt @WeCops Controversial maybe but in lieu of a degree route into being a warranted officer a 2 year minimum PCSO placement…those I worked with in that role then went in as PC’s after say it’s the best prep for the next step…some will disagree but an idea? #wecops
@ClaireParmenter
26 January 2022 22:02
@WeCops @Mark_McSweeney2 @Jennajo69937075 My thanks to everyone for joining some great ideas to take forward ???? #WeCops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 22:02
NP week IS every week. Love this tweet! #WeCops https://twitter.com/mark74brown/status/1486458356554424322
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 22:02
@PcGavinParrott @Jennajo69937075 @WeCops Amen to that! #wecops
@PCWibble
26 January 2022 22:03
@notlistenning1 @WeCops Most satellite nicks gone, most rural NH amalgamated, huge geographical areas managed by single officer. Huge crime waves of varying crime types #wecops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 22:04
@mark74brown @WeCops A role for the Home Office in the delivery of this then... #WeCops
@WeCops
26 January 2022 22:05
RT @ClaireParmenter: @WeCops @Mark_McSweeney2 @Jennajo69937075 My thanks to everyone for joining some great ideas to take forward ???? #WeCops
@DannoReynolds
26 January 2022 22:06
RT @WeCops: Last Q of the evening! It’s flying by as ever!! #WeCops
@WecopsCaroline
26 January 2022 22:07
@ClaireParmenter @Jasunity2317 @WeCops https://www.cardiff.ac.uk/crime-security-research-institute/publications/research-briefings/sensor #WeCops
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 22:07
@DannoReynolds @WeCops I’ll do that ????…spent a few years on NPT’s…worked alongside them too outside of policing…I come cheaper than others and don’t need cake! #wecops
@WYPF_GenSec
26 January 2022 22:08
@WeCops #wecops Depends on who sets the agenda? Do the force set the outcome (based on what we think the public need) or do the public set the outcomes for what they want? We might think that VAWG should be a priority but the community want ASB in the shopping centre dealing with.
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 22:09
@DannoReynolds @WeCops On a more serious note…totally agree Dan with this…it’s got to be a core fundamental part of the police portfolio…today’s ASB could be next month’s serious crime #wecops
@DrRoyBailey
26 January 2022 22:10
@WeCops N’hood policing has always been seen as the Cinderella of the service, especially by warranted officers, who prefer the more action centred roles. With imagination this can be changed through appraisal systems, greater rewards and career benefits #WeCops
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 22:13
@WeCops Anybody know if there is a PCC within the APCC’s that has NP as their responsibility? #wecops
@IPA_BTPBranch
26 January 2022 22:18
@BTPRams @WeCops Exactly this. Embedding an innate intel function into NPT work has allowed our work in London with Op Zarma to produce quicker and more dynamic problem solving successes. Those we help love that we can quickly turn around solutions to their problems. #WeCops
@WeCops
26 January 2022 22:18
RT @mark74brown: @WeCops Anybody know if there is a PCC within the APCC’s that has NP as their responsibility? #wecops
@daimogssoapbox
26 January 2022 22:18
As always gr8 session @WeCops #wecops and to the good folks hosting @ClaireParmenter @Mark_McSweeney2 @Jennajo69937075 Try & tune 2 as many as I can #WeCops @WeCops also passed this 2 @UniSouthWales students so they get connected early & #learn #develop multi facets 2 #learning https://twitter.com/WeCops/status/1486458930662457351
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 22:18
@DrRoyBailey @WeCops Agreed Roy…there needs to be a step away from the dealing with noisy neighbours & dog mess myth…NP can deal with the most serious criminals & problems on your patch etc…and as I’ve said tonight today’s ASB could be next month’s serious crime #wecops
@WeCops
26 January 2022 22:19
@mark74brown @MarcJonesLincs ? #WeCops
@WeCops
26 January 2022 22:20
RT @daimogssoapbox: As always gr8 session @WeCops #wecops and to the good folks hosting @ClaireParmenter @Mark_McSweeney2 @Jennajo69937075…
@WeCops
26 January 2022 22:20
@daimogssoapbox @ClaireParmenter @Mark_McSweeney2 @Jennajo69937075 @UniSouthWales ???? #WeCops always great to have you along David
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 22:21
@WeCops @MarcJonesLincs Thank you @wecops I had an inkling it’s Marc Jones but can’t find anything on the internet to confirm #wecops
@DrRoyBailey
26 January 2022 22:23
@mark74brown @WeCops Indeed, Mark. N’hood police are better integrated with their communities, generate more intelligence and provide a pivotal link between the police and the public. The mindsets of response and N’hood police are profoundly different. Their presence is vital #WeCops
@LessCrime
26 January 2022 22:24
@WecopsCaroline @mark74brown @WeCops @OwenTheAnalyst Analysis doesn’t have to take a long time – sometimes an hour of analysis can save many hours of time on the street being wasted because it’s targeted at a problem that’s different in some way (time, place, people, method) from what officers think it is. #WeCops
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 22:27
@LessCrime @WecopsCaroline @WeCops @OwenTheAnalyst You’ve hit the nail on the head here Matt…it doesn’t take days to determine a new burglar is on your patch with a certain MO just as the local park is a hotspot again due to the summer holidays and so on…that’s where I’m coming from on this #wecops
@mark74brown
26 January 2022 22:28
@LessCrime @WecopsCaroline @WeCops @OwenTheAnalyst In an ideal world ?? #wecops




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