#WeCops - Wednesday 8th February 2023 9pm (GMT Standard Time) The role of active bystanders in reducing harm in Policing

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This chat is guest hosted by @Graham_Goulden @MrGerryCampbell

At this time UK police is under the spotlight and in many cases the criticism is justified.  The recent criminality exposed within the profession has sent shockwaves across the country with many asking how we can trust any police officer.  The types of offending and misconduct makes this especially true for girls and women.

 

Whilst wider society has been shocked the same can be said for most other police officers who quite simply feel let down by a minority of harm-doers.  A police officer is, as they say the face of the police service.  

 

What can be done to build trust and confidence in our profession?  What can be done to help officers act to reduce the harm from these behaviours? Whilst much of current focus is on rooting out the ‘bad un’s’, academia presents policing with an opportunity to help officers act early to reduce harm.  Despite the frustration of the many we know that any culture will be defined by the worst behaviours it is willing to accept.

 

For many years police critics have complained that officers who allow police misconduct to happen do more damage to the community’s trust than the officers who commit it. Yet they have not been a focus. Officers across the country have been told they must intervene, but they have not necessarily been taught how to do so.

 

Peer intervention is a tool that will support policing.  The discussion will present opportunities for participants to discuss the ongoing issues as well as learning more about the role that peer intervention and active bystander-ship can play in both supporting them, their communities, and police forces across the country.  The discussion will also be an opportunity to share results from an ongoing pilot of this work within a UK Police Force.

 

 

 

 

Graham Goulden is a retired Scottish police officer who spent the last 8 years of his career as a Chief Inspector within the Scottish Violence Reduction Unit.  In this period, he became a passionate advocate of the bystander approach to help reduce harms in communities and against individuals.  In retirement he now works across public and private sector organisations using this approach to help build safe and supportive workplace culture.  

 

Along with Gerry Campbell, a retired Detective Chief Superintendent from the Metropolitan Police he has designed the AS1 Peer Intervention programme to support UK policing.  Using the ‘science of prevention’, his experience both in the UK and working with policing in the United States, Graham says the role of active bystanders in policing are critical in both ‘turning the tide’ around current the media narrative as well as building trust and confidence in policing.  





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@WeCops
08 February 2023 21:00
Q1. What would the benefits be of early peer to peer intervention? Pls use the hashtag in all your responses #WeCops https://t.co/I7GGc01Azh
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:01
@WeCops Whats in it for you? #Wecops
@TVP_ACC
08 February 2023 21:01
@WeCops #wecops supportive early intervention before things escalate.
@JJSharpers
08 February 2023 21:01
@WeCops An early warning that certain behaviours are not tolerated #WeCops
@Maryoshaughnes8
08 February 2023 21:02
@WeCops #WeCops reinforces positive behaviour and sets the right standards. No one in wants to go against the norm during their probationary period
@SuptLeeBerryWYP
08 February 2023 21:02
@WeCops Prevent escalation and harm, not only to individuals but the organisation too #WeCops #AS1
@KatieMagnet
08 February 2023 21:02
RT @JJSharpers: @WeCops An early warning that certain behaviours are not tolerated #WeCops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:02
@TVP_ACC @WeCops Spot on - when we act early we reduce harm. We stop harm continuing. Abuse will evolve and continue until we have interruption #Wecops #As1
@NWPDOI
08 February 2023 21:02
@WeCops Sets the standards expected. Sets the tone and culture. Doesn’t allow that line to be crossed #WeCops
@WeCops
08 February 2023 21:03
RT @TVP_ACC: @WeCops #wecops supportive early intervention before things escalate.
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:03
@Maryoshaughnes8 @WeCops nice one mary - you make it ok for others to act. A sort of mood music is created for others to follow #Wecops #As1
@SuptLeeBerryWYP
08 February 2023 21:03
@WeCops First steps to creating the right culture - it is expected to get called out #WeCops #AS1
@realhotfuzz
08 February 2023 21:04
@WeCops #WeCops intervention at the earliest possible stage will prevent harm but also the need for Professional Standards investigations in the wake of harm
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:04
@JJSharpers @WeCops Veery much so - What can this lead to on a shift/peer group? #Wecops
@WecopsCaroline
08 February 2023 21:05
@WeCops It prevents the, ‘it’s just management being ****’’ peer to peer makes people sit up and take note - tho of course the intervention has to come from someone well respected, that’s the truth #WeCops
@WeCops
08 February 2023 21:05
RT @JJSharpers: @WeCops An early warning that certain behaviours are not tolerated #WeCops
@ktbg1
08 February 2023 21:05
RT @WeCops: Q1. What would the benefits be of early peer to peer intervention? Pls use the hashtag in all your responses #WeCops https://t…
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:05
@NWPDOI @WeCops yes its a way to set a culture. It can come from anyone not just the leader. In many ways we are all leaders when it comes to preventing harm #wecops #as1
@WeCops
08 February 2023 21:05
RT @Maryoshaughnes8: @WeCops #WeCops reinforces positive behaviour and sets the right standards. No one in wants to go against the norm dur…
@VanessaRolfe2
08 February 2023 21:05
@WeCops #wecops a friendly steer in the right direction and setting example to other peers #AS1
@EducateAliens
08 February 2023 21:06
@WeCops Constructive peer scrutiny, one step towards a change in culture #wecops
@_Danny__S
08 February 2023 21:06
@WeCops Benefits are - recognise the comments / behaviour early before escalation. Able to have the early intervention before investigation. It might be age / background / length of service of PTSD trauma that starts it. Why wait. #WeCops
@Maryoshaughnes8
08 February 2023 21:06
@Graham_Goulden @WeCops #WeCops there has to be psychological safety.
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:06
One thing @MrGerryCampbell and i learned from our work with @WestYorksPolice was that not everything is reportable. AB provides another way to address harm and to do it early #Wecops #As1 https://twitter.com/WecopsCaroline/status/1623427703041847300
@DannoReynolds
08 February 2023 21:06
@WeCops Good evening everyone. For those that haven't hear of the term or read the prepared. What is 'peer to peer intervention? #WeCops Q1
@MrGerryCampbell
08 February 2023 21:07
Overtime we see that harm doers who remain unchallenged become emboldened and feel empowered to continue #WeCops #As1 https://twitter.com/Graham_Goulden/status/1623427136626348040
@TVP_ACC
08 February 2023 21:07
@WeCops #wecops One of the discussions ongoing is what does zero tolerance mean.... an early peer to peer callout is great zero tolerance. Sets the tone - not on our team, station, work place.
@mike200hope
08 February 2023 21:07
@WeCops Maintains standards and boundaries throughout a team, not just at supervisory level #wecops
@EducateAliens
08 February 2023 21:07
@WecopsCaroline @WeCops How can there be a move towards any peer becoming confident in addressing concerns #wecops
@ktbg1
08 February 2023 21:07
@WeCops Sets standards & culture across ranks & roles. Allows discussion rather than punishment? Prevents worse from happening perhaps? #wecops
@realhotfuzz
08 February 2023 21:07
@WeCops #WeCops it will empower our staff to create the culture they want in their team
@DannoReynolds
08 February 2023 21:07
@Graham_Goulden @TVP_ACC @WeCops Who is the 'we' in this action (for the benefit of the watching audience) #WeCops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:08
officers currently have two choices - 1. to do nothing and risk being investigated down the line for not reporting, and 2 report to supervisor. We know the perceptions of those who report. This approach provides a 3rd option to act before we need to report #Wecops #As1 https://twitter.com/realhotfuzz/status/1623427565275824128
@WYP_LD_PatrolT3
08 February 2023 21:08
@WeCops Had @Graham_Goulden Training and used it since to debrief a use of force recently. Essential to hold our peers accountable with a view to preventing complacency and officers dropping in trouble, thus preventing damage to our organisational brand #WeCops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:08
@DannoReynolds @TVP_ACC @WeCops an individual or group can act #wecops
@_the_blue_line_
08 February 2023 21:09
@WeCops You learn more from peers sometimes than in a training input, so really valuable for making you think #wecops
@TomGaymor
08 February 2023 21:09
@WeCops Uphold standards, prevent harm and open communication channels ?? #WeCops
@WeCops
08 February 2023 21:09
RT @_the_blue_line_: @WeCops You learn more from peers sometimes than in a training input, so really valuable for making you think #wecops
@WeCops
08 February 2023 21:09
RT @TomGaymor: @WeCops Uphold standards, prevent harm and open communication channels ?? #WeCops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:09
Active bystandership in action with @WYP_LD_PatrolT3 Building into daily practice embeds but also sets a tone #Wecops #As1 https://twitter.com/WYP_LD_PatrolT3/status/1623428607304400897
@WeCops
08 February 2023 21:10
Pls don’t forget the hashtag - we want to record all your comments! Next Q coming at 9.20, pls keep the convo going, it’s all useful stuff ?? #WeCops https://t.co/ll5Mq1v8w2
@JJSharpers
08 February 2023 21:10
@Graham_Goulden @WeCops I think of smoking. Smoking used to be cool, then people started questioning it, the effects it has on you and others, more people started waving their hands saying yuk get away, that’s disgusting… Smoking is no longer ‘cool’ and those who do it have to stand outside. #WeCops
@WecopsCaroline
08 February 2023 21:10
@EducateAliens @WeCops Why shouldn’t they be confident in addressing concerns? (Genuine Q?!) #WeCops
@InquisitivePlod
08 February 2023 21:10
@WeCops It begins the slow process of change, what I heard referred to recently as the “blotting paper effect”. Eventually the message spreads and joins up making it he behaviour unacceptable and ease of challenge normal #wecops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:10
@Maryoshaughnes8 @WeCops you are right - @MrGerryCampbell and I have worked from the CC to the PC over these past months. This requires a culture that supports and expects intervention. Its key #Wecops
@SuptLeeBerryWYP
08 February 2023 21:11
@_the_blue_line_ @WeCops This for me is why it is so important, need to learn what is right and when and how to intervene if not #WeCops #AS1
@VanessaRolfe2
08 February 2023 21:11
@WYP_LD_PatrolT3 @WeCops @Graham_Goulden #wecops great to hear the #AS1 training being used positively in a safe environment ????
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:12
The benefits of active bystander-ship are many. #Wecops #as1 https://t.co/zGhYlX2IQN
@JJSharpers
08 February 2023 21:12
@Graham_Goulden @WeCops It needs to be challenged consistently. Stop a team becoming toxic because of awful behaviour and instead make it a toxic environment for those who believe they’re allowed and entitled to act that way. Enough there ‘may’ be consequences, more there ‘will’ be #wecops
@EducateAliens
08 February 2023 21:12
@TVP_ACC @WeCops Where is the line between what can be dealt with by peer intervention and what needs escalating, how develop confidence in what is properly a learning issue and what needs more robust response - who decides - who supports #wecops
@andyluvv
08 February 2023 21:12
RT @TomGaymor: @WeCops Uphold standards, prevent harm and open communication channels ?? #WeCops
@SuptLeeBerryWYP
08 February 2023 21:12
@WYP_LD_PatrolT3 @WeCops @Graham_Goulden Great to hear! #WeCops #AS1
@TVP_ACC
08 February 2023 21:12
@WecopsCaroline @WeCops My only concern here is with some forces having 80% of frontline having less than 2 years service we need to make it ok for everyone to call out behaviour. A tough ask but essential #wecops
@MrGerryCampbell
08 February 2023 21:13
Peer intervention and active Bystandership in #Policing won’t be successful without the active support of #Leaders of all ranks and grades empowering their officers and staff #WeCops #As1 https://twitter.com/graham_goulden/status/1623429160487059456
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:13
@JJSharpers @WeCops Active bystandership in many ways starts with our daily actions. Its sets a tone for any team. When we commit to act we make it ok for others to act #Wecops #As1
@zinzantheboot
08 February 2023 21:13
@WeCops Ensures that a 'no surprises' culture can exist....#WeCops
@_the_blue_line_
08 February 2023 21:14
@SuptLeeBerryWYP @WeCops In the medical world they take part in emergency drills, within them a senior doctor is prepped to say something that is incorrect (so for example they may tell a more junior staff member to administer the wrong dose of the drug)it’s interesting to watch and hear feedback #wecops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:14
There are many inhibitors to intervention. Training provides tools to overcome these inhibtors. We follow the science of prevention which says we can train active bystandership #Wecops #As1 https://twitter.com/MrGerryCampbell/status/1623429752949288960
@Shaktiunleashed
08 February 2023 21:14
@Maryoshaughnes8 @WeCops #WeCops You also need a safer and entirely objective person to report to, preferably removed from any connection to the police, in confidence, thereby removing fear of retribution, isolation from those officers wanting to report.
@WecopsCaroline
08 February 2023 21:14
@TVP_ACC @WeCops Yes I agree but I also remember a probationer coming to me with 3 months service (in 2015) and calling out bad behaviour. If we get the right ppl in, they can be just as effective, long in service, or not #WeCops in fact they may be even better at calling this out!
@_the_blue_line_
08 February 2023 21:15
@SuptLeeBerryWYP @WeCops (2) because sometimes nobody challenges because of the status of the doctor. After the day you really become empowered to challenge others. We could learn a lot from things like this in policing #wecops
@NickHerceg
08 February 2023 21:15
@WeCops I think any climate of peer accountability would be reflective of the positive culture developed to allow it; by positive, that need only be the confidence to challenge, no matter how informally. There’s value if all are invested, bottom-up #wecops
@NeilFenny3
08 February 2023 21:15
@WeCops Include it with a professionalism strategy and empower officers to challenge and flag behaviours to superiors. Reassure that you welcome officers to challenge and thank them when they do! This is what my force is doing now! #WeCops
@VanessaRolfe2
08 February 2023 21:16
@WYP_LD_PatrolT3 @WeCops @Graham_Goulden #wecops The #AS1 training from @Graham_Goulden and @MrGerryCampbell has given our staff the skills and confidence to practice peer to peer intervention = stronger teams = stronger performance benefitting the public
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:16
Yes active bystandership is used in aviation and in medicine. Similar to police harm occurs when mistakes are made and hierarchies exist - both formal /informal. It is also now being used in US with police, post George floyd the demand has increased. #Wecops #As1 https://twitter.com/_the_blue_line_/status/1623430000329297921
@EducateAliens
08 February 2023 21:16
Constructive peer / critique/ challenge/ intervention/ inquiry has potential to benefit many professions, but it needs support infrastructure to give confidence #wecops
@WeCops
08 February 2023 21:16
RT @VanessaRolfe2: @WYP_LD_PatrolT3 @WeCops @Graham_Goulden #wecops The #AS1 training from @Graham_Goulden and @MrGerryCampbell has given o…
@TVP_ACC
08 February 2023 21:17
@WecopsCaroline @WeCops When I present to new recruits I talk about wanting difference not clones. Essential for people to not feel like they need to assimilate #wecops
@realhotfuzz
08 February 2023 21:18
@WeCops #WeCops it would mean a true learning culture, one where there is less blame. Like the airline industry
@MrGerryCampbell
08 February 2023 21:18
Peer intervention and active Bystandership benefits individuals, teams, the police organisation, the public and local partners #WeCops #As1 https://twitter.com/VanessaRolfe2/status/1623430485262102529
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:18
To be clear Active bystandership isnt about bypassing discipline. What is reportable before the training is reportable after the training #Wecops #As1 https://twitter.com/Graham_Goulden/status/1623429495494410243
@InquisitivePlod
08 February 2023 21:18
@TVP_ACC @WecopsCaroline @WeCops Our differences are our strength #wecops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:19
@realhotfuzz @WeCops Yes we are discussing this with various parts of policing. Those who act need to be supported #Wecops #As1
@InquisitivePlod
08 February 2023 21:19
@TVP_ACC @WecopsCaroline @WeCops Our differences are our strengths #wecops
@WeCops
08 February 2023 21:20
Q2. What would motivate you to intervene on a colleague to stop harm? #WeCops https://t.co/QQLf1Ry0uK
@iofiv
08 February 2023 21:20
RT @WeCops: Q1. What would the benefits be of early peer to peer intervention? Pls use the hashtag in all your responses #WeCops https://t…
@iofiv
08 February 2023 21:20
RT @WeCops: Q2. What would motivate you to intervene on a colleague to stop harm? #WeCops https://t.co/QQLf1Ry0uK
@coachfizz
08 February 2023 21:20
@WeCops Setting the cultural tone and providing ‘permission’ for those uncertain if it’s ok to speak up #WeCops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:21
@TVP_ACC @WecopsCaroline @WeCops Many officers want to act and help. Stuff gets in the way. Leadership at all levels is key to make it ok. The conversations we create correct misperceptions that many officers have. Its why an e-learning won't cut it #Wecops #As1
@TVP_ACC
08 February 2023 21:21
@EducateAliens @WeCops It will very much depend on the circumstances- low level intervention for low level issues. It's got to be top down and bottom up #wecops
@Maryoshaughnes8
08 February 2023 21:21
@WeCops #WeCops risk of harm or reputational damage due to their actions
@_the_blue_line_
08 February 2023 21:22
@WeCops I think for me it’s in built… if I see something that isn’t right I speak. Maybe for some it’s confidence/experience? #wecops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:22
I love asking this question in training. Whilst there are inhibitors to intervention science present ways to motivate people to act #Wecops #AS1 https://twitter.com/WeCops/status/1623431474870640641 https://t.co/juxjMO6KWB
@ktbg1
08 February 2023 21:22
RT @WeCops: Q2. What would motivate you to intervene on a colleague to stop harm? #WeCops https://t.co/QQLf1Ry0uK
@SuptLeeBerryWYP
08 February 2023 21:22
@WeCops Protect the public, them, me, team and the organisation #WeCops #AS1
@_Danny__S
08 February 2023 21:22
@WeCops It’s wrong and I joined to be professional within a professional organisation. That’s it. They should know better! We have all had the training and warnings since day 1 regarding behaviour. #WeCops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:23
@_the_blue_line_ @WeCops so your moral compass - where does that come from???? #Wecops #As1
@DannoReynolds
08 February 2023 21:23
@WeCops Seeing the harm and being able to do something about it to prevent it or stop it. It isn't more complicated than that. #WeCops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:23
@SuptLeeBerryWYP @WeCops in many ways a sense of loyalty to others. WE don't join policing to get rich - we join to help people dont we? #Wecops #As1
@TVP_ACC
08 February 2023 21:23
@WeCops That what they are saying or doing is wrong or inappropriate. Doesn't have to be a negative thing. It can be highlighting the issue early #wecops
@mark74brown
08 February 2023 21:24
@WeCops Takes the ‘authority’ element out of the equation so it doesn’t become official process & escalation issue…we often learn from each other more so in a positive way as a behavioural norm to entrench boundaries & standards…just as a negative environment can be detrimental #wecops
@EducateAliens
08 February 2023 21:24
@WeCops Anything that detracts from professionalism, but that’s based on years of experience, not as easy when young in service and possibly unsure.#wecops
@_the_blue_line_
08 February 2023 21:24
@Graham_Goulden @WeCops Parents, your past experiences, peers, your values are deep within you, your religion… so many factors #wecops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:24
@Maryoshaughnes8 @WeCops Again a sense that if you act you can prevent/reduce harm. This is real loyalty which at times can be blind and passive #Wecops
@iofiv
08 February 2023 21:24
@TVP_ACC @WeCops In terms of zero tolerance, that only really works if a permanent record is retained. Too many of these ad hoc peer interventions stack up meaninglessly with some officers because nobody is looking at or acting on the cumulative. #WeCops
@WecopsCaroline
08 February 2023 21:24
@_the_blue_line_ @WeCops I agree Kerri, it’s not an option to keep quiet, tho Ive seen the consequences first hand of intervening and the ‘pack’ turning against you…. I still wouldn’t hesitate to do it again. Professional integrity is non negotiable #WeCops
@InquisitivePlod
08 February 2023 21:25
@WeCops Witnessing or hearing something that is or could be harmful to an individual, to a group/team or to the reputation of the force. To demonstrate to others that this is the case and give people less confident the confidence to take action in the further #wecops
@NeilFenny3
08 February 2023 21:25
@WeCops The motivation is already there, in your pocket or on a lanyard, a warrant card which you got by being attested where you pledged to do the right thing. There shouldn’t be a need for further motivation. Integrity - do the right thing when no one is looking! #WeCops
@iofiv
08 February 2023 21:25
@WeCops Perceiving the likely harm. #WeCops
@NWPDOI
08 February 2023 21:25
@WeCops #WeCops prevent others being hurt by words or behaviour. Keep trust & professionalism of service.
@SuptLeeBerryWYP
08 February 2023 21:25
@WeCops We also need to be motivated to do something because it’s the right thing to do…the right culture is key #WeCops #AS1
@_the_blue_line_
08 February 2023 21:25
@WecopsCaroline @WeCops It’s hard sometimes but it doesn’t sit right with me not to say something (and you know how much I like to speak ????) #wecops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:26
I asked @SerpicoDet why did he speak up. He told me it was the right thing to do. When i asked him where did the sense of right and wrong come from he said "probably his dad, who was always helping others". Moral rebels often respond in this way to these two questions #wecops https://twitter.com/_the_blue_line_/status/1623432002778038274
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:26
@_the_blue_line_ @WeCops so if you don''t speak up you arent being true to self and those who have built you #Wecops
@DannoReynolds
08 February 2023 21:27
#WeCops Q2 https://twitter.com/WYPMadden/status/1623433046526656512
@Maryoshaughnes8
08 February 2023 21:27
@WeCops #WeCops I believe my moral compass is inherited but you still have to be confident enough to speak up and be prepared to deal with any repercussions
@DannoReynolds
08 February 2023 21:27
#WeCops Q2 https://t.co/hzskWw0UBW
@andyluvv
08 February 2023 21:27
@_the_blue_line_ @WecopsCaroline @WeCops It's difficult to speak to power and the fear of it turning against you. Its even harder to put yourself in that position over and over and not see change. How long, how much and how many times? #WeCops
@iofiv
08 February 2023 21:28
@TVP_ACC @WeCops It's hard, unpopular and creates an atmosphere of mistrust and suspicion but I think policing is being pushed to a position where we have to be seen to clean our own stables. We have no Hercules though. #WeCops
@JohnRobertMc
08 February 2023 21:28
@WeCops It would help to reinforce a culture that certain things are just not acceptable. Helps to make it not just about management. Needs strong characters though more often than not. Needs to be everyone’s business/responsibility #WeCops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:28
One of the architects of active bystander work is Dr Ervin Staub from US. I asked him recently what is the biggest motivator - He said a sense of responsibility #WeCops https://twitter.com/_the_blue_line_/status/1623432614789935108 https://t.co/Y7DjnLcNfH
@JJSharpers
08 February 2023 21:28
@WeCops To prevent it in that instance and in the future. It is just something I do. I do it many different ways, but I always do something. I can’t just walk past it. I’ve found it easier as time has gone on, I think it’s a mix of experience (job/life) and becoming a mother #wecops
@Maryoshaughnes8
08 February 2023 21:28
@Graham_Goulden @WeCops #WeCops it’s more difficult if it’s someone you respect or are close to
@Shaktiunleashed
08 February 2023 21:28
@WYPMadden @WeCops Yep I guess its holding each other to the same standards you need to hold the public to. #WeCops
@realhotfuzz
08 February 2023 21:28
@WeCops #WeCops I see colleagues stepping forward when they see behaviour that goes against their values and beliefs. However the longer a team has been together the more homogeneous they become, the less likely they are to report one another as values change
@WeCops
08 February 2023 21:28
RT @SuptLeeBerryWYP: @WeCops Protect the public, them, me, team and the organisation #WeCops #AS1
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:29
@JohnRobertMc @WeCops yes leaders create leaders - prevention starts with each and every one of us #Wecops
@DannoReynolds
08 February 2023 21:29
#WeCops Q1 https://twitter.com/WYPMadden/status/1623429715091505157
@EducateAliens
08 February 2023 21:29
@WecopsCaroline @WeCops They should, but reality may be that if young in service then uncertainty, wish to be accepted, being naieve, may all impact - so support infrastructure may assist #wecops
@_the_blue_line_
08 February 2023 21:29
@andyluvv @WecopsCaroline @WeCops But if more people challenged it would drive change… it’s the way the world evolves. I suppose me learning about minority conformity in school for A Level psychology have a bit of understanding how small groups can change bigger groups attitudes #wecops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:30
@TVP_ACC @WeCops peer accounability is vital - We can save careers and at same time rid service of actively toxic people #Wecops
@JohnRobertMc
08 February 2023 21:30
@WeCops Don’t need to be motivated personally. If I recognised the harm and was in a position to act, I would. It’s part of the job for me. #WeCops
@realhotfuzz
08 February 2023 21:30
@WeCops #WeCops agree that we should not underestimate how hard it is for new officers/staff joining established teams to question and challenge behaviour, new to policing it can be misinterpreted as the norm
@andyluvv
08 February 2023 21:30
@WeCops Support from your seniors, encouragement to do it and knowing you won't be penalised for doing it. For those of us wanting to have this job for the right reasons and for the long haul, its a hard chip to gamble on. #WeCops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:30
@Maryoshaughnes8 @WeCops We call this a social fear. But we practice the words to use in these situations #Wecops
@andyluvv
08 February 2023 21:31
@SuptLeeBerryWYP @WeCops Say it loader for the kids at the back #WeCops https://t.co/A438MorHoX
@Shaktiunleashed
08 February 2023 21:32
@Maryoshaughnes8 @WeCops Yep fear can be a big barrier. In health care we often see poor confidence in feeling able to use freedom to speak up guardians, or escalating concerns about colleagues for fear of negative repercussions. #WeCops
@jsargentr
08 February 2023 21:32
RT @WeCops: Q1. What would the benefits be of early peer to peer intervention? Pls use the hashtag in all your responses #WeCops https://t…
@zinzantheboot
08 February 2023 21:32
@WeCops Knowing that it is what we stand for in everything we do, internally as well as externally. And knowing that the impact can be hugely positive for all involved and others….not just within our own force, or UK policing but wider. @HeForShe #WeCops
@andyluvv
08 February 2023 21:32
@_the_blue_line_ @WecopsCaroline @WeCops I think some of the ways people have voiced it is to leave. But if senior leadership can't ask the hard questions or see the evidence right in front of them, what else can people do? #WeCops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:32
Whilst responsibility is the greatest motivator there are others. Training provides tools including ways to speak to colleagues who may be victims of harm or the ones doing the harm. Lets not forget these are our colleagues and loyalty is a key strength of policing #Wecops #As1 https://twitter.com/Graham_Goulden/status/1623433610576670721 https://t.co/0L35fHl8nV
@InquisitivePlod
08 February 2023 21:33
@realhotfuzz @WeCops …and for those longer in service it has wrongly become the norm therefore they may not realise the harm or are ignorant to it until it’s called out #wecops
@SuptLeeBerryWYP
08 February 2023 21:33
@Maryoshaughnes8 @Graham_Goulden @WeCops This is really important Mary, the Drink Drive scenario is used in training - we would intervene to stop them drink driving … so why not to address their behaviour #WeCops #AS1
@WeCops
08 February 2023 21:33
RT @iofiv: @WeCops Perceiving the likely harm. #WeCops
@jsargentr
08 February 2023 21:34
RT @Graham_Goulden: Nearly time - Here's what active bystander-ship means. Its about reducing harm #WeCops https://t.co/vLiavd7DTz
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:34
@SuptLeeBerryWYP @Maryoshaughnes8 @WeCops Fridns dont let friends drive drunk was a successful US campaign in 80's. Led to 75% of US citizens taking keys of friends #Wecops
@Dizdodar
08 February 2023 21:34
@TVP_ACC @WeCops Completely agree Sir. Important that the support is there for the updstander from the off. People need to know it’s safe to intervene #wecops
@jsargentr
08 February 2023 21:34
RT @WeCops: Good evening and welcome to tonight’s #WeCops chat with guest hosts, @Graham_Goulden and @MrGerryCampbell We are focussing on…
@WeCops
08 February 2023 21:34
RT @realhotfuzz: @WeCops #WeCops I see colleagues stepping forward when they see behaviour that goes against their values and beliefs. Howe…
@_the_blue_line_
08 February 2023 21:34
@andyluvv @WecopsCaroline @WeCops And this is where great leadership is key! And sadly I wish their was more training and support for leaders, we should be empowering all leaders but especially first line leaders #wecops
@DannoReynolds
08 February 2023 21:34
@Shaktiunleashed @Maryoshaughnes8 @WeCops Build it into the systems, processes and behaviours to make it the 'normal' thing. I actually think we already have a good solid base on which to build with more to do (always) of course. Always good to thrash our own views on the veranda to ensure fit for purpose! #WeCops
@coachfizz
08 February 2023 21:35
@Graham_Goulden I imagine many here will think they would always speak up yet the evidence suggests that that’s not always the case. It’s important that we give opportunities to discuss these issues. Not just in a training scenario but in team briefings and other situations. #wecops
@WecopsCaroline
08 February 2023 21:35
RT @WeCops: Q2. What would motivate you to intervene on a colleague to stop harm? #WeCops https://t.co/QQLf1Ry0uK
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:37
@coachfizz We often hear that. The reality is that some speak up all of the time. Others don’t do it as much as they think. Science presents the answers. We use the decades of research in #AS1 to address this #wecops https://t.co/AX2Qd2Z7Ma
@EducateAliens
08 February 2023 21:37
@_the_blue_line_ @andyluvv @WecopsCaroline @WeCops Values, ethical dilemmas etc should be part of regular discussions and debriefs - training isn’t just for classrooms - let’s normalise the chats #wecops
@andyluvv
08 February 2023 21:37
@_the_blue_line_ @WecopsCaroline @WeCops We need to get the right people in leadership. Training alone won't fix someone not fit to lead. I'm seeing too many complacent leadership which brings down morale. If you can't get your team to dress appropriately as a first step, I'm already losing hope. Standards! #WeCops
@SuptLeeBerryWYP
08 February 2023 21:37
@realhotfuzz @WeCops Unless the culture is created that it is expected to be called out. Really good point…we have to shape the standard/expectations #WeCops #AS1
@Dizdodar
08 February 2023 21:37
@andyluvv @_the_blue_line_ @WecopsCaroline @WeCops I think it comes down to how it goes the first time they intervene for many. I was older when I joined and thus sure of my own moral compass and happy to intervene. If you’re young in service/inexperienced and it gets brushed aside you’ll likely not intervene again #wecops
@MrGerryCampbell
08 February 2023 21:39
The #As1 programme uses some of the key strengths in #policing including #Teamwork and #CriticalLoyalty #As1 #WeCops https://twitter.com/Graham_Goulden/status/1623434708527742976
@DannoReynolds
08 February 2023 21:39
@WeCops Just musing back on Q1. Putting it simply... Fewer (ideally no) horror stories coming to light. An evident robust culture holding each other to high standards of behaviour as absolutely normal & accepted. The right to intervene and challenge is expected by all. #WeCops Q1
@Dizdodar
08 February 2023 21:39
@_the_blue_line_ @Graham_Goulden @WeCops I agree though I would say that I score very high on ACES but have a very strong moral compass. So some must be nature ?! #wecops
@WeCops
08 February 2023 21:39
Question 3 coming up :) #WeCops https://t.co/40JUlACERK
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:39
@DannoReynolds @Shaktiunleashed @Maryoshaughnes8 @WeCops We do Dan. We have a reachable moment at this time. Answers to current issues lie within our teams and in our staff. #wecops #AS1
@Shaktiunleashed
08 February 2023 21:39
@DannoReynolds @Maryoshaughnes8 @WeCops Definitely a system of reflective practice is great. Think there is mention of it in OP Soteria. But agree you will have a good basis to start from. I imagine very few of you joined to cause harm. There is some brill police work atm addressing these issues #wecops
@WeCops
08 February 2023 21:40
Q3. Apart from poor behaviour what other harms could be reduced through early peer intervention? Pls use the hashtag #WeCops https://t.co/uBBMhmjd13
@AlexField556
08 February 2023 21:40
@WeCops Whenever these scenarios presented themselves in the past, it was just a decent sense of duty. I suspect, the more confident you are, the more likely you are to do the right thing. #WeCops
@iofiv
08 February 2023 21:40
RT @WeCops: Q3. Apart from poor behaviour what other harms could be reduced through early peer intervention? Pls use the hashtag #WeCops…
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:41
The focus just now is on harmful behaviour and misconduct. What else can lead to harm in policing? #wecops. https://twitter.com/WeCops/status/1623436508169670656
@Dizdodar
08 February 2023 21:42
@WeCops Cliques and ‘choosing CADs/investigations. If the team has a sense of openness and transparency then everyone pulls for each other rather than against each other. Peer to peer intervention done right makes teams stronger IMHO #wecops
@TVP_ACC
08 February 2023 21:42
@WeCops Predation, attrition, morale, public confidence damage... so many things #wecops
@SuptLeeBerryWYP
08 February 2023 21:42
@WeCops Wellbeing, reputation both personal and organisational #WeCops #AS1
@WecopsCaroline
08 February 2023 21:42
RT @TVP_ACC: @WeCops Predation, attrition, morale, public confidence damage... so many things #wecops
@WecopsCaroline
08 February 2023 21:42
RT @WeCops: Q3. Apart from poor behaviour what other harms could be reduced through early peer intervention? Pls use the hashtag #WeCops…
@DannoReynolds
08 February 2023 21:42
@WeCops Again - musing on question 2... The knowledge that if everyone is intervening then there should be fewer horror stories in the future where 'failed to act' and 'missed opportunities' is heard... The poor actions of some, hurt us all. Trust, Confidence, Legitimacy. #WeCops Q2
@AlexField556
08 February 2023 21:43
@WeCops Minimising the impact of bad practice early. Peers can informally coach and intervene to improve practice. They often don’t as there is a sense any performance issue needs to be formal. Great teams improve each other organically. #WeCops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:43
@TVP_ACC @WeCops I recently worked with a major building org in UK doing this work. What do you think they wanted to focus on? What harms were they concerned about ? #wecops
@Maryoshaughnes8
08 February 2023 21:43
@WeCops #WeCops stress and poor mental health. No one wants to admit they aren’t coping
@SuptLeeBerryWYP
08 February 2023 21:43
@WeCops Or what could be enhanced… recruitment, retention, a more diverse workforce #WeCops #AS1
@DannoReynolds
08 February 2023 21:44
@WeCops What does the evidence base already tell us? #WeCops
@ktbg1
08 February 2023 21:44
RT @WeCops: Q3. Apart from poor behaviour what other harms could be reduced through early peer intervention? Pls use the hashtag #WeCops…
@coachfizz
08 February 2023 21:44
@WeCops Many things could be covered by the term behaviour but there’s a whole host of other things such as poor performance, illegal activity, poor victim support, cutting corners etc etc #WeCops
@EducateAliens
08 February 2023 21:44
@WeCops Groupthink could be reduced with people encouraged to value different perspectives.#wecops
@realhotfuzz
08 February 2023 21:44
@WeCops #WeCops encourages inclusive behaviour one that values difference in thought, builds trust
@WecopsCaroline
08 February 2023 21:45
@WeCops We all know the power of peer intervention - it just needs to be focused in the right way… those who hold court on a team have a power and responsibility that is so important- it impacts the way officers behave, their initial reactions and ultimately, public confidence #WeCops
@_Danny__S
08 February 2023 21:45
@WeCops How about the harm of negative press - local and national, social media, victims, witnesses, suspects and multi-agencies or anyone else we have contact with. If we get it right, then poor behaviour reduces/irradiates and options change. That’s what it should be… #WeCops
@Graham_Goulden
08 February 2023 21:46
Yes Mary. Poor mental health is a major concern in policing. Daily exposure to trauma presents risk. It’s also connected to misconduct. It doesn’t excuse it but helps understand it in some cases. So harm from poor mental health #wecops https://twitter.com/Maryoshaughnes8/status/1623437499891851264
@WeCops
08 February 2023 22:00
Thanks so much to our hosts @Graham_Goulden and @MrGerryCampbell and our WeCoppers for joining in. The contributions will be gathered and blogged. Let’s move policing forward positively, together ?? #WeCops https://t.co/jSasMIULLm




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