#WeCops - Wednesday 22nd February 2023 9pm (GMT Standard Time) Rural Crime

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Host Supt Andy Huddleston – Northumbria Police

I wont go quite as far as saying rural crime is belittled by many people I speak to but it is fair to say that when I explain I’m the national lead for theft of tractors and diggers, I nearly always get a wry smile and asked is that really a big issue ? Using the national average, only 16% of the people in this room live in a rural area which I think is a good starting point for why it is helpful to set out just how serious and organised rural crime is and how this impacts upon all of us.

The national SOAC definition highlights Rural Crime and Machinery theft as one of the 9 UK priorities. Is Rural Crime Serious crime?

Absolutely and very much not just across one crime type. For example we have an OCG that steals Quad bikes and Land Rovers but also uses farm machinery to rip out ATM machines in rural locations.

But more than this Rural Crime OCGs we now know adapt in line with demand hence we have seen increases in GPS and fuel thefts, as well as for example equine crime and livestock theft, the latter I can assure you is not a job for the untrained as loading, moving and disposing of 60 sheep is a skill the vast majority of society don’t have. It might seem to be only a few sheep worth about £90 each, however this meat enters the food chain through illegal slaughtering and abattoirs. Add to this over 16,000 people are hospitalised and over 180 die each year due to foodborne disease I think you would agree is a concern and we now work with the Food Standards Agency.  

Part of a series of offending – historically we have been bad at making the links predominantly due to the very nature of rural offence locations being wide spread and OCG’s operating in ways we didn’t understand. Rural Crime is hardly, if ever standalone. 

Whilst the exact cost of Rural Crime is not easy to set the insurance data from the very supportive NFU Mutual, we can estimate the cost at over £50M but this does not include downtime, penalties and the impact of produce not getting to market. The financial cost of rural crime is significant and this cost is ultimately picked up by all of us in the price of the food we buy. For this reason we are part of the National Infrastructure Crime Reduction Parentship. 

Lastly - the impact if also far closer to home for us as a police service, there are several deaths directly linked to rural criminality but for me the most poignant is that of our colleague Andrew Harper who lost his life responding to the theft of a quad bike.  

Aside from academic research the high level of organisation behind rural crime is also becoming more and more evident through the dedicated roles within teams such as NAVCIS and OPAL ACE. One recent OPAL case identified an OCG travelling the length of the country to steal high volumes of fuel (I’m talking 15,000 litres at a time!) all based on their knowledge of a national farming supplier that stored their fuel in the same way at all there depots across the country - Effectively their website became an address book for the OCG, without OPAL we would not have made these links.

Putting the scale of rural SOAC into context recently was some excellent work by NAVCIS, working with European colleagues 20 GPS units stolen from Norfolk were located in Lithuania, each with a value of between 5 and £14K. These 20 were part of 250         found in the raid! stolen from Germany, France and Belgium with a value in excess of £1.5M. We have found UK tractors in Africa, an excavator in the United States and even a 40 tonne quarry dumper truck in Australia! (In urban terms that’s the weight of 3 London buses!) To move this sort of equipment you have to have not only a large but also skilled global network.

NAVCIS whom I have to say are outstanding, in the last 3 years have intercepted 7 shipping containers with over £1.5M of agri and plant equipment all bound for the middle east. That’s great, but what didn’t we intercept!

However, with scale comes investigation issues and we are repeatedly finding across the UK that Rural SOAC investigation often falter, falling down in one of two gaps - either between forces and ROCUs and sometimes between ROCUS and the NCA. Rural Crime OCGs clever balance of risk versus reward pays dividends as their activities whilst high financial return, steer away from terrorism, human trafficking, firearms and drugs, thereby scoring lower in terms of threat harm and risk and so often avoiding a higher level scrutiny.                      

Policing challenges

There are as you’ve heard some excellent examples of success in tackling rural crime and we are without doubt getting far better, however we still find forces, regions and Countries working in isolation. At a local level we’ve talked of individual crimes not being linked but to emphasise this same issue on a much larger scale, since January 2020 any property unless it has a DVLA registration number, is no longer shared with Europe. The loss of access to the Schengen database in the rural crime world means high value agri and construction machines that make it over the Channel are effectively untraceable. To give some reassurance we have a manual work around for equipment we believe has gone to Europe and are working with the NCA, ICCC and Interpol on an interim data sharing solution. The learning we would share is that SOAC OCG’s know this and they are in farming terms currently making hay while the sun shines! 

Intelligence sharing

At a regional and nation level there is some good information sharing but it is sporadic and not consistent, within Rural Crime what has shown great success is Operation Hawkeye, this is quite simply regular rural crime intelligence sharing meetings and calls and its working really well. Particularly between Scotland and Northern forces where it is making a difference on a near daily basis both in terms of live time intelligence and importantly the linking of offences 

NAVCIS, OPAL and ACE are crucial to intelligence sharing as you have heard me say but what we have also found is that OPAL is not widely known and I would advocate we all have a role in helping change this.

A point I would want to emphasise is the need for a wider use of PND to not only enter OCG activity but then ensure it is used in targeting these offenders across multiple forces.

Lastly on intelligence, it is not just a police responsibility, we have found both the Agricultural and Construction industry don’t share what they know and they know a lot! We are looking to address this with the likes of crime stoppers campaigns and the expansion of Rural Watch groups that are proving extremely successful across the UK. Very quickly Rural Watch is effectively neighbourhood watch using whats app and is now a vast network of the community in Rural Areas. It is in my opinion the most powerful advance we have seen in tackling rural crime and increasing confidence in the police in the last 27 years.   

Partnership working

Across the UK within Rural Crime we have found working together has time and again shown its high value and long term impact, a great example is the Scottish Partnership Against Rural Crime that has membership from government, industry and the voluntary sector. One of our national priorities is to establish similar partnerships across the country.

However partnership by definition is to work together for the better – Our experience of a small number of partners is that whilst reducing crime is promoted as a priority the unspoken priority is making or not losing money and there being fewer victims of crime is secondary. Which clearly makes problem solving   a problem!     

Problem solving

Taking a more detailed problem solving approach and closely examining what is behind the crimes we seek to prevent has been a watershed moment in rural crime policing – we have for a very long time not made links as you’ve heard me set our but also not understand the dynamics of the crimes. By this I mean really understanding the offenders behaviour and motivations, how victim behaviour impacts on a crime, the influence of insurance practices on culture and also how business practice fuel thefts. A fundamental influence on how we approach Rural SOAC has come from academia and my experience and advise would be embrace it, especially when you don’t like what it tells you!                        

Shared learning across SOAC portfolios I would advocate as being fundamentally key. I am not talking just about crime intelligence here but the ‘life cycle’ of these crimes and the conditions in which they thrive. We so often concentrate on how we target offenders which is absolutely right but must do this alongside work address other factors that contribute.

For example within agri machinery theft we benefitted from the experience of the car crime work Gareth Wrigley and the team had been doing, it gave us great examples of where manufacturers were working in partnership. However what this sharing also identified was that the market forces were very different in the Agri and construction sector – domestic car manufactures found that thefts were reducing their competitive advantage in other words sales, in the Agri sector this is just not the case, a farmer buys exactly the same machine again.

Somewhat controversially but we can prove this, some companies know fine well thefts are good for business as every machine stolen generates another sale and there is a direct pressure not to address obvious failings or adopt technology where high numbers of thefts are not causing customers to move to a competitors product.  

This later issue is one we have tried to address voluntarily with manufacturers for 3 years and had no success. This has led to government support and we are currently assisting in writing a Private Members Bill to see basic security fitted to these machines in the UK brought into legislation.  

Through the SOAC board, Home Office Stolen Goods Working Group and NIRCP we have shared some of this learning as I believe there are other sectors within SOAC that have some of the fundamental issues we are dealing with. 

Can I please ask that you take way these three things:

Adopt the SOAC / Rural Crime and Wildlife Strategies

  • The strategies set out what we need to do they are very clear and I would commend them to you.

Join the Intelligence network & get more out of PND

  • Please do help support us introducing Hawkeye and rural crime partnerships 
  • Can I ask that we use and promote OPAL / ACE and NAVCIS they are key
  • PND is not just what you get out but what you put in!

Increased focus on Prevent 

  • We enforce where we can but to quote a line from an old colleague we will not arrest our way out of theses crimes, Preventing these crimes through informed problem solving and partnership working is fundamental. 
  • Lastly share your learning and use the SOAC portfolio leads to seek that change that is needed but which is so often difficult to achieve.

 

I hope you would agree Rural Crime is definitely part of SOAC, that the OCG links are far greater than we knew or understood but that the future is bright and that through working together and problem solving we can significantly reduce serious organised acquisitive crime.





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 #WeCops transcript

 
@WeCops
22 February 2023 21:00
Q1 Do you feel #RuralCrime is a sufficiently prioritised by your force/PCC? What makes you say this #WeCops https://t.co/iS7sBex1qW
@Jay_Foster_
22 February 2023 21:01
RT @WeCops: Q1 Do you feel #RuralCrime is a sufficiently prioritised by your force/PCC? What makes you say this #WeCops https://t.co/iS7sBe…
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:01
We're underway with tonight's #WeCops chat. Privileged to have a bit part talking about such a significant element of UK policing that doesn't always hit the headlines. Don't forget the hashtag #WeCops! https://twitter.com/WeCops/status/1628499882544705536
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:01
RT @WeCops: Q1 Do you feel #RuralCrime is a sufficiently prioritised by your force/PCC? What makes you say this #WeCops https://t.co/iS7sBe…
@FarmCrimePhD
22 February 2023 21:02
RT @WeCops: Q1 Do you feel #RuralCrime is a sufficiently prioritised by your force/PCC? What makes you say this #WeCops https://t.co/iS7sBe…
@GeordieDetectiv
22 February 2023 21:02
@WeCops So many things are a priority to the point where nothing is a priority #wecops
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:03
Thanks Dave, looking forward to some good discussion #wecops https://twitter.com/InspDaveWise/status/1628500276599554050
@Shukes69
22 February 2023 21:03
RT @InspDaveWise: We're underway with tonight's #WeCops chat. Privileged to have a bit part talking about such a significant element of UK…
@kerrimonaghan1
22 February 2023 21:03
@WeCops To be honest before I read the pre read I didn’t realise the extent rural crime has an effect on everyone. The links to serious organised crime make absolute sense I just hadn’t joined the dots before #wecops
@kerrimonaghan1
22 February 2023 21:03
RT @WeCops: Q1 Do you feel #RuralCrime is a sufficiently prioritised by your force/PCC? What makes you say this #WeCops https://t.co/iS7sBe…
@WeCops
22 February 2023 21:04
#wecops https://twitter.com/ruralcrimehutch/status/1628500589486264320
@BeakerRick
22 February 2023 21:04
@WeCops #wecops obviously
@peapodlets
22 February 2023 21:05
RT @WeCops: Q1 Do you feel #RuralCrime is a sufficiently prioritised by your force/PCC? What makes you say this #WeCops https://t.co/iS7sBe…
@RuralCrimeHutch
22 February 2023 21:05
RT @WeCops: Q1 Do you feel #RuralCrime is a sufficiently prioritised by your force/PCC? What makes you say this #WeCops https://t.co/iS7sBe…
@dadwithahat1
22 February 2023 21:05
@WeCops In comparison to other demands and threat and risk or how much I’d like. Taken as a whole I think with our other demand issues I think it is yes. As much as I and probably the PCC and senior leaders would like. No. As much as community would like. No. #WeCops
@WeCops
22 February 2023 21:06
#wecops https://twitter.com/beakerrick/status/1628500893724286981
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:07
@WeCops If you’re in any doubt about #RuralCrime being Serious Organised Crime then please read this by Dr Kate Tudor @taityb https://express.adobe.com/page/86ylvQg8pRlij/ #WeCops
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:07
@WeCops @WMerciaPolice @CCPippaMills @WestMerciaPCC @nfum Aaaargh. Failed at the first attempt! #WeCops #WeCops #WeCops!!!
@WeCops
22 February 2023 21:08
Don't forget the Hash tag! #WeCops its how we find all your tweets! https://t.co/3XBMhQogUO
@Jay_Foster_
22 February 2023 21:08
@WeCops To a certain level. @ClevelandPolice and neighbours @NYorksPolice have recently conducted a cross-border operation in the wake of thefts from farms. It’s a prime example of intelligence sharing and problem-solving between forces, working together to tackle rural crime. #WeCops ??
@_IanAdams
22 February 2023 21:09
@WeCops DCP seem to put an awful lot of time. effort & resource into #RuralAffairs, which is understandable given the geography & offences committed. The PCC also seem to invest in rural initiatives. #WeCops
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:10
@WeCops Evidence clearly demonstrates a strong link between organised crime & rural offending and I recognise that forces require more support in meeting these challenges. I hope that the national unit will aid RCTs in responding to the serious and complex nature of rural crime #WeCops
@RuralCrimeHutch
22 February 2023 21:10
@AndyHuddleston3 @WeCops @taityb This paper is brilliant and those that think #RuralCrime isn’t an issue need this as some bedtime reading. #wecops
@dadwithahat1
22 February 2023 21:10
@WeCops For clarity we have a dedicated team and taskings around rural crime. Links into farm watch and similar via that team. We also run ops against organised rural crime groups but with limited resources you have to deliver on so many other areas as well #WeCops
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:10
@GeordieDetectiv @WeCops This is definitely a reality. It's also true that plenty we focus on falls within #RuralCrime, particularly OCG activity. Sometimes hard to define overarching crime types when they can be so broad. #WeCops
@EX_MX15
22 February 2023 21:11
@WeCops Yes. @cheshirepolice have an excellent proactive @CheshPolRural team. #wecops
@Jay_Foster_
22 February 2023 21:12
@WeCops @ClevelandPolice @NYorksPolice https://www.cleveland.police.uk/news/cleveland/news/2023/january/two-arrested-following-joint-operation-tackling-rural-crime/ It’s fantastic to see the joint work between forces, it’s crucial to tackle the issue. #WeCops
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:13
This is key to improvement and effectiveness. Intelligence sharing and joint working across boundaries and borders. Great point Jayden #WeCops https://twitter.com/Jay_Foster_/status/1628501969995268101
@WeCops
22 February 2023 21:15
Q2 What best practice can your force share to help improve the national response to #RuralCrime? #WeCops https://t.co/wGl27dUrTM
@3963knw24467
22 February 2023 21:15
@WeCops Not in the slightest, communities are neglected We are too busy covering the towns to get out to rural far too often. We don't have the right types of vehicles to deal with rural crime, as soon as anything goes off road we're stuffed #WeCops
@dadwithahat1
22 February 2023 21:16
RT @WeCops: Q2 What best practice can your force share to help improve the national response to #RuralCrime? #WeCops https://t.co/wGl27dUrTM
@mark74brown
22 February 2023 21:17
@InspDaveWise @GeordieDetectiv @WeCops That’s the struggle sometimes with this…defining & understanding exactly what is ‘rural crime’…is it crime that takes place in rural areas or is it a specific crime that’s only ‘rural’ #wecops
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:17
@WeCops @taityb Under the national leadership of @NWP_CCBlakeman, these links are now recognised. #RuralCrime & machinery theft now form part of the National Serious and Organised Acquisitive Crime Strategy @Opal_SOAC #WeCops
@jt2769
22 February 2023 21:17
@WeCops Easy ! Information sharing, networking and partnership working #WeCops
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:17
@WeCops @TVP_RuralCrime @RuralCrimeHutch are doing some first class work and for a newly structured team its impressive that last year seized over £1M of stolen equipment #WeCops
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:18
@WeCops Intelligence sharing is fundamental in fighting #Ruralcrime and we are not great at it. We need nationwide use of Op Hawkeye and build on what @ScottishPARC @NPRuralNmbland @DurhamPolice @Cumbriapolice @NYorksPolice are doing very effectively #WeCops
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:19
Really intrigued to hear the innovation out there. #WeCops Anyone having success tackling more challenging #RuralCrime like Hare Coursing? #OpGalileo https://twitter.com/WeCops/status/1628503646886412288
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:19
@jt2769 @WeCops Completely agree James #wecops
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:19
@WeCops Insp Alan Dron and his team are superb and also worth call or visit to see how they tackle #RuralCrime in Scotland @ScottishPARC #WeCops
@lewis_mayling
22 February 2023 21:21
@WeCops @RuralCrimeHutch *combat and #WeCops ??
@RuralCrimeHutch
22 February 2023 21:21
@mark74brown @InspDaveWise @GeordieDetectiv @WeCops The lack of a national definition is a big issue. I think ours is perfect and covers all types of rural crime. But different forces, leaders and officers all have a different view. That then sets Rural Teams priorities. That does cause confusion. #wecops
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:21
@WeCops We're working on efforts to reduce thefts from Solar Farms. With Rural and Business Crime officers we're not only target hardening existing sites but working with planning to ensure future planning controls include additional security as a pre-requisite. #WorkInProgress #WeCops
@CarlyZawodzins3
22 February 2023 21:22
@WeCops Our force is currently training rural response teams in everything rural crime related. It gives people confidence to deal with specific crime types & enables them to be more vigilant & proactive, especially with new student officers joining teams regularly #wecops
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:23
#WeCops - Oliver, agree that #RuralCrime is best tackled by rural cops, or cops supported with the best training. Helps build relationships, community bonds and instant credibility! https://twitter.com/OliverC93364822/status/1628505209574924289
@Jay_Foster_
22 February 2023 21:23
@WeCops It is evident intelligence sharing and joint work between forces and partners is vital in the battle against rural crime, at a local and national level. For example, Operation Hawkeye as mentioned by @AndyHuddleston3. #WeCops
@Jay_Foster_
22 February 2023 21:23
RT @WeCops: Q2 What best practice can your force share to help improve the national response to #RuralCrime? #WeCops https://t.co/wGl27dUrTM
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:23
#WeCops https://twitter.com/OliverC93364822/status/1628505623175348225
@lewis_mayling
22 February 2023 21:23
@WeCops Strategic priority in a force plan, a strategy to deliver, a gold level owner, a true partnership at all levels ie strategic regional boards and tactical delivery, use of innovative tactics and Achilles Heel, but most of all honesty with communities & hard work! #WeCops
@WeCops
22 February 2023 21:24
@CarlyZawodzins3 That’s great to hear! What types of training is included? #wecops
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:24
@WeCops What are peoples views on rural ANPR coverage? #wecops
@WeCops
22 February 2023 21:25
Reminder for the Hash Tag #WeCops https://t.co/PsUXhAkWfI
@mark74brown
22 February 2023 21:27
@WeCops From previous experience ‘best practice’ gets stifled because it’s not been devised by a force itself…taking on somebody else’s ideas or practice doesn’t always sit well…too much gets ignored because of the culture around ‘in-house’ promotion of ‘own ideas & strategies’ #wecops
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:28
@AndyHuddleston3 @WeCops @ScottishPARC I'm getting so many names noted down for contacts! :-) #WeCops
@WeCops
22 February 2023 21:29
@mark74brown What about if this comes in the form of an APP from @CollegeofPolice #wecops
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:29
@WeCops @DurhamPolice set up Rural Watch/Whats App with a farming couple Peter & Gladys Stobbs 30 years ago, its has developed into in my opinion THE most impactive community initiative in the fight against #RuralCrime #WeCops
@WeCops
22 February 2023 21:30
Q3 The investigation of rural crime often requires specialist skills and knowledge. Do you feel sufficiently equipped to meet these challenges? What support would you ask for?#WeCops https://t.co/IL7ogtwtTn
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:30
@lewis_mayling @WeCops Honesty and hard work - that seems about perfect - that's what most folk want from us with the knowledge we can't solve everything but we'll do our damnedest - particularly key message for our rural communities #WeCops
@BluelineLimited
22 February 2023 21:30
@WeCops I hope you don’t mind us chipping in, but information sharing is key. Policing needs to be more open to working with the commercial sector. #YouCops #WeCops
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:31
@WeCops My top 5 best practice I've seen so far would be 1) Rural Whats App, 2) Rural Crime/policing Team 3)Partnership & volunteers 3)ANPR 4)Officer training 5)Regional Intelligence sharing #wecops
@WeCops
22 February 2023 21:32
@BluelineLimited Of course not! Chat is open to all ??#wecops
@CarlyZawodzins3
22 February 2023 21:32
@WeCops Unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to be involved (mat leave) but I understand it's been things like how to spot & deal with crimes like poaching, intelligence about how offenders operate & input from RPU about driving in rural areas, vehicles used in crime etc #wecops
@Jay_Foster_
22 February 2023 21:33
@WeCops Technology is key, especially the use of drones, I know @ClevelandPolice @DronesPolice utilise drones to help tackle rural crime, including for patrolling large scale areas for crime prevention and directly tracking suspects in relation to offences and operations. ?? #WeCops https://t.co/4J4B1lds9k
@OliverC93364822
22 February 2023 21:34
RT @InspDaveWise: #WeCops - Oliver, agree that #RuralCrime is best tackled by rural cops, or cops supported with the best training. Helps b…
@BeakerRick
22 February 2023 21:34
@AndyHuddleston3 @WeCops Some proper rural training would be awesome. The teams are really busy though, and taking them away from their core role would likely be more detrimental than beneficial. #WeCops
@OliverC93364822
22 February 2023 21:35
RT @InspDaveWise: #WeCops
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:35
@mark74brown @WeCops If we can get regional partnerships against crime PARCs I would hope this turns it into a team effort. #wecops
@jt2769
22 February 2023 21:35
@WeCops #WeCops
@CarlyZawodzins3
22 February 2023 21:35
@WeCops May seem like targeting low level offences but helps inform the intelligence picture & can impact on rural organised crime. If officers are confident in dealing with the people they encounter it makes it a hostile area for criminals to target #wecops
@mark74brown
22 February 2023 21:35
@WeCops @CollegeofPolice Of course…but are things always ‘endorsed’? This was a while back but Dorset had an excellent scheme working with rural communities & NFU but NPCC & CoP wouldn’t endorse it ??????? hopefully things have changed #WeCops
@Martin_Ryder1
22 February 2023 21:36
@WeCops Cross border experienced investigation is essential and paying huge dividends for us. Intel sharing and disruption is ineffective without this #wecops
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:36
Coppers love to talk about kit and vehicles. What should be on your wish list to meet the challenges of tackling #RuralCrime? #WeCops How are you tracking poachers across fields? How are we recovering hundreds of stolen sheep and what technical resources swat a fly tipper? https://twitter.com/WeCops/status/1628507421726625792
@WeCops
22 February 2023 21:37
#wecops https://twitter.com/bluelinelimited/status/1628509015788453901
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:38
@WeCops @AndyHuddleston3 #WeCops That's more cakes right there.....will never get the gig at this rate.
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:39
@WeCops The national unit in partnership with @NaVCIS_UK and CITS already support RCTs nationally with training to identify stolen plant and agricultural equipment @hitachi_uk @CESARscheme #WeCops https://t.co/qCEYn2iFGh
@RuralCrimeHutch
22 February 2023 21:40
@InspDaveWise @WeCops @AndyHuddleston3 I forget every single time…. #wecops
@Miles_PBH
22 February 2023 21:41
@WeCops I know that in @AndyHuddleston3 force there’s a rural special who is virtually 24/7 rural crime fighter himself, in a community he knows well and is respected by. They’re a unique character right enough but perhaps a model that could be made official and supported role. #WeCops
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:42
@RuralCrimeHutch @WeCops @NaVCIS_UK We had @NaVCIS_UK out recently on a @warkspolice operation our team supported and there was so much positive feedback about them. #WeCops
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:42
@WeCops Thanks to @NFUM funding and support of DCC Ford we have two roles advertised filled. Investigative support for the machinery specialists and PARC Co-Ordinator for the country. Look out for the advert! and they are here to help RCTs #WeCops
@WeCops
22 February 2023 21:44
#wecops https://twitter.com/FarmCrimePhD/status/1628510845721354241
@WeCops
22 February 2023 21:44
#wecops https://twitter.com/ruralcrimehutch/status/1628510545597894659
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:44
@AndyHuddleston3 @WeCops I'm going to have to email you about Whatsapp. In brief are you able to share precisely what it is about Whatsapp - is it simply familiarity and prevalence? You'll be aware some forces are moving aware from using it completely. #WeCops
@WeCops
22 February 2023 21:45
Q4 A national rural crime unit is being set up that will help establish regional rural partnerships, provide specialist investigative support, legislative change, training and sharing of best practice. Would this support you in tackling #RuralCrime? #WeCops https://t.co/GkriMHv5X5
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:45
@InspDaveWise @WeCops Don't worry Dave the important thing is your sheep theft knowledge has gone up! #wecops
@WeCops
22 February 2023 21:46
@InspDaveWise @AndyHuddleston3 Am excellent example of why it may be appropriate in some circumstances #Wecops @CCPippaMills
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:47
@WeCops I firmly believe tackling #Ruralcrime is about more than just operational policing. Work with @gregsmith_uk on the Equipment Theft Prevention Bill will help address some major drivers of plant and ag theft http://bit.ly/3Z2C94E #WeCops
@Miles_PBH
22 February 2023 21:47
@WeCops @AndyHuddleston3 And all rural response cops there also get really great rural training, and top quality rural winter kit, but training is hard to access for many rural specials as they’re not generally available office hours, & they don’t know they can get the kit. #WeCops
@WeCops
22 February 2023 21:48
@FarmCrimePhD That’s interesting academics are well used in other areas of policing #wecops
@dadwithahat1
22 February 2023 21:48
@WeCops Yes as I think we may often miss how far some rural criminals travel and thus investigate opportunities when they are in custody or with joint operations. #WeCops
@WeCops
22 February 2023 21:50
@AndyHuddleston3 @InspDaveWise @RuralCrimeHutch @NaVCIS_UK @warkspolice That’s very impressive #wecops
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:50
@WeCops Our team have discovered the benefits of @NaVCIS_UK just this week through a chance joint op. A National Rural Crime Unit would have those contacts and best practice at hand, it'd be nice not to just rely on happenstance! #WeCops
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:51
@WeCops @AndyHuddleston3 @RuralCrimeHutch @NaVCIS_UK @warkspolice Paid for themselves...and some! #WeCops
@CarlyZawodzins3
22 February 2023 21:52
@WeCops Rural crime needs to be everyone's business. It's not good enough to say that you work in an urban area so you don't need to know. Rural OCG's travel through urban areas, store stolen property in urban areas etc. It's important for all officers to have a good awareness #wecops
@RuralCrimeHutch
22 February 2023 21:52
@WeCops In the last year we have recovered stolen property from 17 different police forces in Thames Valley. You cannot underestimate the miles Rural Crime offenders will travel to offend. The national team offers us an ability to communicate and share information quickly. #wecops
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:53
#WeCops https://twitter.com/FarmCrimePhD/status/1628512915480354816
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:54
@Miles_PBH @WeCops Thanks Miles, you are absolutely right and he rightly was awarded an BEM for his services, truly outstanding. #wecops
@Jay_Foster_
22 February 2023 21:55
@WeCops The links to organised crime and cross-border activities demonstrate the importance of a national approach. Criminals often travel across force boundaries to commit this type of crime. Forces must work together to tackle the problem. ???? #WeCops
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:55
@WeCops @SurreyPCC @ellie_vt have been massively supportive & are helping with research to establish the scale and cost of livestock worrying, theft and fraud. An estimated 20K sheep are stolen a year! #WeCops
@Miles_PBH
22 February 2023 21:56
@Jay_Foster_ @WeCops @ClevelandPolice @DronesPolice Vehicle tagging is great tech too, Apple AirTags can be a cheap effective alternative to expensive tracking systems for quads and other plant, easy to hide, easy to transfer from vehicle to vehicle worked well and saves the folks £££ #WeCops
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 21:56
@WeCops Great article by @DavidCollinsST of the impact of livestock worrying https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/09293744-af9f-11ed-bde0-64a2ad0fcf88?shareToken=aec7310729b11531a1132df14ba119d4 #WeCops
@DavidCollinsST
22 February 2023 21:56
RT @AndyHuddleston3: @WeCops Great article by @DavidCollinsST of the impact of livestock worrying https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/09293744-af9f-11ed-bde0-64a2ad0fcf88?shareToken=aec7310729b11531a1132df14ba119d4 #WeCops
@RuralCrimeHutch
22 February 2023 21:57
@Jay_Foster_ @WeCops We need SOCU’s and regional teams to also step up and take on the rural OCG’s as a target. #wecops
@WeCops
22 February 2023 21:57
@AndyHuddleston3 @SurreyPCC @ellie_vt That’s a lot of sheep! I know when we chatted we should be asking questions most officers wouldn’t know about. #wecops
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:57
@WeCops There's a need also to understand victims of rural crime, the support they need, the impact of offending on livelihoods. Hopefully National Unit would provide strong advocacy for victims. #WeCops. Noted mention of psychological impact in @FarmCrimePhD's bio and intend to read up!
@RuralCrimeHutch
22 February 2023 21:59
@FarmCrimePhD @WeCops We have a rural crime coordinator and she’s been amazing making sure our force rural crime is recorded correctly. If you don’t know the scale of the problem you can’t deal with the problem. #wecops
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 21:59
#WeCops https://twitter.com/FarmCrimePhD/status/1628514736798154753
@SamanthaLGeorge
22 February 2023 22:00
RT @AndyHuddleston3: @WeCops Great article by @DavidCollinsST of the impact of livestock worrying https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/09293744-af9f-11ed-bde0-64a2ad0fcf88?shareToken=aec7310729b11531a1132df14ba119d4 #WeCops
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 22:01
@InspDaveWise @WeCops Judith Skillbeck @NYorksPolice is doing some brilliant work on WhatsApp that will help every force to use it for #Ruralcrime #wecops
@FarmCrimePhD
22 February 2023 22:01
@WeCops Rural criminals don't recognise boundaries. Need to work outside the traditional silos to ensure a joined up response #wecops
@WeCops
22 February 2023 22:01
Do we know who our officers are with experience of rural life? #wecops
@RuralCrimeHutch
22 February 2023 22:02
@lis3743knight @InspDaveWise @GeordieDetectiv @WeCops @ThamesVP I think this is such a massive issue and a national definition long overdue. Ours I think is captures all the issues of Rural Crime. #wecops
@WeCops
22 February 2023 22:03
Hopefully you have made some connections between you and maybe learnt a thing or two. I know the #wecops team have! Thanks again to our fab hosts we really can’t do it without you!
@Jay_Foster_
22 February 2023 22:05
@WeCops @AndyHuddleston3 @InspDaveWise Thank you @AndyHuddleston3 and @InspDaveWise for taking the time to host. Fantastic chat, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Very interesting to learn of the different work been done up and down the country and the importance of rural crime. ???? #WeCops
@OliverC93364822
22 February 2023 22:05
RT @InspDaveWise: #WeCops - Oliver, agree that #RuralCrime is best tackled by rural cops, or cops supported with the best training. Helps b…
@Miles_PBH
22 February 2023 22:06
@AndyHuddleston3 @WeCops @taityb Another special up in the Cairngorms is a dedicated full time @PoliceScotland rural police officer too who’s has had some incredible results from investigating wildlife crime and uncovering OCG activity, and has had rare success in securing convictions for raptor killing. #WeCops
@FarmCrimePhD
22 February 2023 22:06
@WeCops @HarperAdamsUni the Rural Resilience Research Group have expertise in agri systems, Rural Criminology, human behaviour and decision-making, Food security, animal welfare, and a much wider range of aspects directly related to #ruralcrimeimpacts #wecops
@AndyHuddleston3
22 February 2023 22:07
@lis3743knight @InspDaveWise @WeCops Brilliantly put! Its right to be careful with WhatsApp but I likewise truly believe it is fundamental to working with the community particularly in large rural areas. #wecops
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 22:08
@lis3743knight @AndyHuddleston3 @WeCops I do like a challenge - for the right reasons. Given me lots to think about. Sometimes policing needs to just go with what works and adapt ourselves to potential risks when the benefits could be so rewarding. #WeCops
@WeCops
22 February 2023 22:10
Awful news #WeCops teams thoughts are with family, friends and colleagues https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1628510957776297985
@InspDaveWise
22 February 2023 22:12
I massively rode on @AndyHuddleston3's coat tails here but pleased to see lots of interaction and insight for my #WeCops initiation. Hope to be back in the future (and thank you @kerrimonaghan1). https://twitter.com/WeCops/status/1628514973537431553
@FarmCrimePhD
22 February 2023 22:14
@WeCops #wecops oops!
@Miles_PBH
22 February 2023 22:16
@RuralCrimeHutch @WeCops @mark74brown @CollegeofPolice @SussexRuralCops @HantsPolRural @TVP_RuralCrime It would be very interesting and probably useful to have a multi force benchmarking of rural policing methods and practices, although I guess it might become competitive! #WeCops
@WeCops
22 February 2023 22:17
@Miles_PBH @RuralCrimeHutch @mark74brown @CollegeofPolice @SussexRuralCops @HantsPolRural @TVP_RuralCrime A bit of competition is always good! #wecops
@RuralCrimeHutch
22 February 2023 22:18
@Miles_PBH @WeCops @mark74brown @CollegeofPolice @SussexRuralCops @HantsPolRural @TVP_RuralCrime Hopefully this is what the national team will do. #wecops
@Miles_PBH
22 February 2023 22:19
@AndyHuddleston3 @WeCops @DurhamPolice Interesting, so simple an idea too. #WeCops
@FarmCrimePhD
22 February 2023 22:21
@InspDaveWise @AndyHuddleston3 @WeCops Successful WhatsApp groups are often community led. But you need to get a community champion to ensure the info shared in the community is shared with the police #wecops
@FarmCrimePhD
22 February 2023 22:28
@InspDaveWise #wecops I'm so bad at this!




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